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Re: What OS's "aside of Linux" Can I run on a G3 Imac 233 Mhz?
« on: December 01, 2003, 12:37:36 AM »
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YOu know, from reading what half you guys are typing about this Zippy OS business, it is REALLY hard to believe any of you ever owned an Amiga.

 So does MorphOS run on IMac?

 Also I was planning on getting a 600Mhz G4 upgrade with Firewire for my Imac, would it be a better machine to do video editing on than my PeeSea?

What was the PC setup?

Can that encode DivX (@TV PAL res) in real time?
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Every Ati All In Wonder I have ever owned has sucked, has not worked, or just gave bad quality or corrupted videos. I hope the world of the Mac is better for this.

Can your statement apply to Radeon 9800 VIVO (with Catalyst 3.2)?

I don’t have video capturing problems the with my NV25 VIVO (Philips Electronics’ TV CODEC chip) based solution.

The test PC was;
AMD Athlon XP 3200+ @2.2Ghz, GA-7N400Pro2 (nForce2 400 Ultra**), NV25 VIVO, CL Audigy2 7.1 ZS**, 1GB PC3200 (dual channel mode), +200GB 7200 RPM HD(s). Sonic Foundry’s Vega 4.0 works fine with this setup. **Equipped with a total of 4 Fire-wire ports (i.e. 3 from GA, 1 from CL).

A similar test setup was fine with ASUS A7N8X Deluxe. I do have access to VIA based mobo IF additional test is required.
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Re: What OS's "aside of Linux" Can I run on a G3 Imac 233 Mhz?
« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2003, 01:11:00 AM »
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But Damn! My buddy bought a New Sony Vaio w/ a 2.6Ghz P4 and XP feels just as peppy on my Dell w/ a PIII 800Mhz.
 

There are several factors that may slow down WinXP PC i.e.  
1. Availability of physical RAM e.g. 1GB vs 512MB vs 256MB vs 128 MB
2. The RPM speed of the Hard Disk.
3. Front side bus speed.
4. Broken drivers.
5. GPU
6. APU/DSP(lesser extent)  
7. Chipset and its companion chipset drivers.

Laptops usually have power saving regimes thus slowing things down i.e. what was the hard disk’s RPM in your laptop (e.g. 4200)?

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Re: What OS's "aside of Linux" Can I run on a G3 Imac 233 Mhz?
« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2003, 03:12:04 AM »
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Laptops usually have power saving regimes thus slowing things down i.e. what was the hard disk’s RPM in your laptop (e.g. 4200)?


Both have the same drive IBM/40GB HD/5400RPM/8MB cache

The Dell is 3 (maybe 4 years old)
The Sony 1 month

Dell, PIII@800Mhz
Sony, P4@2.6 Ghz

Dell, PC133, 384MB RAM
Sony, DDR(266 i think), 512 MB RAM

Chips, bus etc...

No way app launches should be comparable.

Note that a fast CPU doesn’t fix the problems of having a slow hard disk drive.

One could make a Pentium VI @3.2 machine preform like a tired old Pentium Classic machine e.g. installing 1995 era Conner hard disk drive. Bloated OSes has a greater dependency on faster drive performance.
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Re: What OS's "aside of Linux" Can I run on a G3 Imac 233 Mhz?
« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2003, 03:53:49 AM »
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My most recent atempt was with my Dual 1000Mhz AMD ASUS MObo, 256 Mb of Kingston RAM, ATA 133 Samsung Hard Drive, and a Radeon All In Wonder.

I would encode in 640x480, NTSC and get crap quality, if I would set the Bit Rate too high, it would either stop itself after 20Mins or so, or when it finished, the play back was horrible!!!! I would stick on a frame, and play the sound, then maybe after 5 minutes move to the next frame.

Without knowing the specific motherboard/chipset (guessing an AMD 7xx) and ATI VPU generation, I'm guessing there's something wrong with your particlar setup. Was your software SMP aware?

An Athlon T-Bird @1.33Ghz with MSI-6330 V5 (VIA KT133A), 512MB PC133, UDMA100 40GB 7200 RPM Seagate and NV25 VIVO should be able to encode MPEG2(with kbit/s rate of 3700) at 640x480 resolution. The application for the video capture was Ulead’s VideoStudio 6 SE (bundled with video card).

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Another thing that pisses me off about ATI is they put Macrovision protection on there damn cards so that you CAN NOT back up those old aging VCR tapes, which REALLY makes me mad.

That’s another issue in regards to Macrovision.
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