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Re: AmigaOne XE shipping
« on: April 20, 2003, 07:50:01 AM »
Did Alan forget relatively cooler and IPC bias "Pentium M"?
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Re: AmigaOne XE shipping
« Reply #1 on: April 20, 2003, 08:29:25 AM »
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Yer true. Mhz doesn't mean crap (as seen on many a post on Amiga.org). .

One can't rely on just IPC i.e. as AMD has stated "Instructions per cycle"(IPC) x "clock speed".

Note that Intel plans to increase thier own IPC increases via Prescott and Pentium M cores.

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Even the x86 world has drastic differences now. AMD Athlon XP 3000+ with the barton core running at 2166Mhz (or thereabout) compares very well against a P4 3.06Ghz in benchmarks and real world tests...

Dependent on the applications being run.  Relying on IPC alone has limits.  

Note that AMD Athlon64/Opteron 12(integer)/17(floating point) stage pipelines for clockspeed increases. AMD did recognized that they need clock speed increases in the near future.

Athlon XP only has 10(integer)/17(floating point) stage pipelines. The current AThlon XP 2800/3000+ could be overclocked @ ~2.4Ghz without going to liquid cooling (i.e. head room reserve for future and last K7 Athlon XP 3200+).
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Re: AmigaOne XE shipping
« Reply #2 on: April 20, 2003, 08:41:41 AM »
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2 G3@600 are better than 1 P4@3000 when talking about servers: you're spreading the load. Of course,

Are you claiming that Dual G3@600 beats 1 P4@3000 (in trems of processing power)?  

Note that Pentium 4@3.0Ghz's FSB bandwidth kills the current G3's FSB bandwidth.  Should one dig up the old dual G3 PowerMac benchmarks?
 
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that's assuming you can get a P4 + cooling system into a 1U case.

Did you forget "Pentium 4" Xeon 1U systems? (Same market segment for 1U AMD Opterons).
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Re: AmigaOne XE shipping
« Reply #3 on: April 20, 2003, 08:51:20 AM »
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It is rare that a server requires raw processing power. It is not used for the same things as a desktop computer, and certainly doesn't have the same number of concurrent users. 2 G3@600 are better than 1 P4@3000 when talking about servers: you're spreading the load. Of course, that's assuming you can get a P4 + cooling system into a 1U case.

IF "raw processing power" is not the focus, the products that would be in this segment would be X86 chips based on Transmeta (both 128bit and 256bit CPU lines) CPU and VIA's C3.

Note that Intel's cool running "Pentium M" would fit in this segment.

Reference for Transmeta 1U systems
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=Transmeta+1U+systems&meta=

Reference for VIA C3 1U systems
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=VIA+C3+1U+systems&meta=

Reference for Intel "Pentium M" 1U systems
http://www.google.com.au/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=%22Pentium+M%22+1U+systems&meta=

There are at least 4 main X86 CPU vendors not just two. Note that "Pentium M" is different from "Pentium 4" based cores.

Better SWOT analysis would be factoring other X86 based solution outside "Athlon/Opteron" and "Pentium 4" based solutions.
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