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Re: Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)
« on: September 23, 2008, 12:39:53 PM »
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I would take my time porting to PS3 and/or XBox. It would be easier to do, and more powerful than x86.

As for "more powerful than x86", PS3 is a road kill against AMD based PC (i.e. AMD GAME!(1) reference platform i.e. AMD Radeon HD (stream processor array) + AMD Phenom (command prcoessor).

Refer to http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38145/135/
Real time raytracing the Transformers movie teaser trailers.

Let's see STI CELL matches AMD Radeon HD 2900/3800/4600/4800 raytracing.

Game for PS3 vs AMD PC debate?

Sony PS3 Fold@Home  = 900 PPD
NV Geforce 8600M GT Fold@Home GPU2 = 1135 PPD (AMD Radeon HD 3650 scores similar points).

1. "AMD GAME!" refers to AMD's "Centrino" for desktop PC market.
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Re: Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)
« Reply #1 on: September 24, 2008, 01:08:48 PM »
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AeroMan wrote:

I would take my time porting to PS3 and/or XBox. It would be easier to do, and more powerful than x86.

As for "more powerful than x86", PS3 is a road kill against AMD based PC (i.e. AMD GAME!(1) reference platform i.e. AMD Radeon HD (stream processor array) + AMD Phenom (command prcoessor).

Refer to http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/38145/135/
Real time raytracing the Transformers movie teaser trailers.

Let's see STI CELL matches AMD Radeon HD 2900/3800/4600/4800 raytracing.

Game for PS3 vs AMD PC debate?

Sony PS3 Fold@Home  = 900 PPD
NV Geforce 8600M GT Fold@Home GPU2 = 1135 PPD (AMD Radeon HD 3650 scores similar points).

1. "AMD GAME!" refers to AMD's "Centrino" for desktop PC market.


Just take into account that the PS3 is the best cost benefit solution available. Can you buy a bunch of GPUs  and make them work for the same price?

There's no need for "bunch of GPUs" to beat PS3.
One Radeon HD 3850 ($96.88 USD, 320 stream co-processors) or Radeon HD 4670 ($108.24, with 320 stream co-processors) would do the trick.

AMD Radeon HD != NV Geforce 8x/9x/Gt2x0 when it comes to raytracing.

An AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+($84.98 with motherboard) is sufficient enough for command processor role. Refer to http://www.pricewatch.com/motherboard_combos/athlon_x2_4200_cpu_fan.htm

Aim for $499 USD PS3 with 80GB HD.

AMD Radeon HD 4670: $108.24
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ and PC Chips A13G / A15G motherboard $84.98
Sub-Total: $193.22

Allocate $305 USD for 80 GB HD, 2GB RAM, Case, PSU, Blu-Ray-ROM.

$ 67.62  DDR2-1066 PC2-8500 2GB  
$ 29.00  Black Mid Tower Case, P4 550W P.S
$34.00 Western Digital 250GB 7200RPM
$111.98 Lite-On blu-ray
Sub-Total: $241.6
Total: $434.82

Prices from http://www.pricewatch.com/

Unlike PS3 (e.g. UT3**), this AMD based system is capable to play games sustained @ beyond 720p.

**Both Geforce 8600GT, Radeon HD 2600XT can play UT3 at 720p and greater than PS3's 30 FPS.

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Besides this, the PS3 still has a Blu-Ray.

One could build an AMD based system with Blu-Ray to beat PS3.

This is without subsidy from game sales.
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and really cool games.

I can“t think about a better port. Price is nice, performance is nice, it has nice games, can run Linux (if you wish) and it is already PPC. You might not like the PPC, but OS4 is already written for it, so it means porting is easier than to x86.

My reponse was for "more powerful than x86" comment.
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Re: Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2008, 01:30:38 PM »
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AMD is having difficulty keeping up with the Joneses.

AMD is doing just fine in the market that requires CPU+GPU combo.

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Intel and nVidia are definitely the price/performance leaders.

In GPU market, NV and AMD are about even in the price/performance.
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Re: Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2008, 02:21:33 PM »
@arnljot

ACube needs to build a motherboard with a PCI-E slot. PCI-E(even with 1X) enables the system to gain the latest GpGPU.
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Re: Good News Is Here (OS 4.1&SAM440 amigakit.com)
« Reply #4 on: September 24, 2008, 02:26:01 PM »
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My recently acquired nVidia GTX-260 (overclocked to 640MHz core speed) turns in many a merry FLOP in the CUDA application's I've played with this far :-)



(above represents source code level FLOPs, not actual GPU FLOPS)

What's more, the given API is quite nicely general purpose.

Note that NV is not cooperating with niche OS vendors.
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