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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« on: July 14, 2003, 10:15:17 AM »
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Sometimes it gives strange errors in memory and some CD's cannot be read. If I run Win98, it doesn't give this promblems with CD's

I didn't have this problem with
- WinXP-Pro-SP1**
- Win2K3 Server.

**1st PC was fitted with LG DVD/CD-RW, nForce II 400 Ultra class chipset/AthlonXP, Geforce TI VIVO, Sound Storm APU, 512MB DDR SDRAM, Dual 100Mbit NICs, 80Gb+40Gb+20Gb 7200rpm HDs (UDMA133).

2nd X86 PC was fitted with SBlive5.1DE (with Audigy 2 drivers), Geforce 2, Sony CD-RW, Samsung 16X-DVD-ROM, 40Gb+20Gb 7200RPM HDs (UDMA100). , 512MB SDRAM, 100Mbit Realtek NIC, VIA KTxxx class chipset/Athlon (TBird)@1.33Ghz. Dual boot with Win2K3 and WinXP.

3rd X86 PC was fitted with SBlive-Value, nVidia TNT2, Imitation 32X/24X/16X CD-RW, 8Gb 5200RPM HD(UDMA33), Celeron @500Mhz, Intel ZX440, 192Mb SDRAM, 10Mbit NIC.  

OS that I like
1. MacOS X (pretty GUI).
2. AmigaOS 3.9 (modified for my liking).
3. Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition (X86-32)(near brain dead server maintenance).
4. Windows XP Pro – SP1 (X86-32) (leisure and general office usage) (with Silver XP theme).
5. Mandrake Linux 9.1 (X86-32) (nice cheap Linux distro).

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2003, 02:18:48 AM »
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@Hagar: Boy, are you the only other person around here that's used OS/2?! OS/2 is what MS-DOS should have been,

I have used OS/2 Warp  (i.e. given away free with magazine cover CD** and from IBM’s X86 PC software bundle)...

**Should have done it earlier i.e. before Windows 95’s release…
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2003, 02:27:51 AM »
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I might install Windows 2003 on a spare hard drive just to see what it's like.

Has anyone tried it yet?

I have tried and currently using  Win2K3 EE on another machine.

Default installation looks like Windows 2000 GUI with near-brain-dead wizards for server maintenance.  Windows XP GUI and I.E 6.0’s scripting engines was not activated by default.  

It some issues with MS-SQL 7…
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2003, 02:45:07 AM »
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Do you mean given away free before Win95 came out or do you mean produced before Win95? OS/2 Warp was before Win95

IBM should have played hardball with MS during the Windows 95 era i.e. use cover-CD distribution tactic earlier not later. This is one method to compete with MS's  bundling of "Win95 with every new X86 PC" tactic.
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2003, 01:36:53 PM »
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I REFUSE to believe it is necessary to have that much code to turn on your computer, have a GUI, operate a mouse, ser/par port and kb. The either net card is just a port like the ser port is, does it really need that much code to work? I just don't get what's going on in there!!!!!

You have forgotten a few things...
1. OLE // application integrations and embedded application objects.
2. WOW //Legacy support.
3. Win32 //Main 32bit Windows APIs.
4. DirectX, //performance bias abstract APIs and services.
5. OBDC // to access data from a variety of database management systems.
6. Video Codecs  (shared with other applications)
7. Sound Codecs (shared with other applications)
8. HAL
9. HEL (Hardware Emulated Layer)
10.  ‘etc’

Specifics

1. Application Layer Gateway Service //Notifies selected users and computers of administrative alerts.
2. Application Layer Gateway Service //Provides support for 3rd party protocol plug-ins for Internet Connection Sharing and the Internet Connection Firewall
3. Application Management //Provides software installation services such as Assign, Publish, and Remove.
4. Automatic Updates //Enables the download and installation of critical Windows updates. If the service is disabled, the operating system can be manually updated at the Windows Update Web site.
5. Background Intelligent Transfer Service //Uses idle network bandwidth to transfer data.
6. ClipBook //Enables ClipBook Viewer to store information and share it with remote computers.
7. COM+ Event System //Supports System Event Notification Service (SENS), which provides automatic distribution of events to subscribing Component Object Model (COM) components.
8. COM+ System Application //Manages the configuration and tracking of Component Object Model (COM)+-based components.  
9. Computer Browser //Maintains an updated list of computers on the network and supplies this list to computers designated as browsers.
10. Cryptographic Services //Provides three management services: Catalog Database Service, which confirms the signatures of Windows files; Protected Root Service, which adds and removes Trusted Root Certification Authority certificates from this computer; and Key Service, which helps enroll this computer for certificates.
11. DHCP Client //Manages network configuration by registering and updating IP addresses and DNS names.
12. Distributed Link Tracking Client //Maintains links between NTFS files within a computer or across computers in a network domain.
13. Distributed Transaction Coordinator //Coordinates transactions that span multiple resource managers, such as databases, message queues, and file systems.
14. DNS Client //Resolves and caches Domain Name System (DNS) names for this computer.
15. Error Reporting Service //Allows error reporting for services and applictions running in non-standard environments.
16. Event Log //Enables event log messages issued by Windows-based programs and components to be viewed in Event Viewer. T
17. Help and Support //Enables Help and Support Center to run on this computer.
18. Human Interface Device Access //Enables generic input access to Human Interface Devices (HID), which activates and maintains the use of predefined hot buttons on keyboards, remote controls, and other multimedia devices.
19. IMAPI CD-Burning COM Service //Manages CD recording using Image Mastering Applications Programming Interface (IMAPI). If this service is stopped, this computer will be unable to record CDs.
20. Indexing Service //Indexes contents and properties of files on local and remote computers; provides rapid access to files through flexible querying language.
21. Internet Connection Firewall (ICF) / Internet Connection Sharing (ICS) //Provides network address translation, addressing, name resolution and/or intrusion prevention services for a home or small office network.
22. IPSEC Services //Manages IP security policy and starts the ISAKMP/Oakley (IKE) and the IP security driver.
23. Logical Disk Manager //Detects and monitors new hard disk drives and sends disk volume information to Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service for configuration.
24. Logical Disk Manager Administrative Service //Configures hard disk drives and volumes.
25. MS Software Shadow Copy Provider //Manages software-based volume shadow copies taken by the Volume Shadow Copy service.
26.NetMeeting Remote Desktop Sharing //Enables an authorized user to access this computer remotely by using NetMeeting over a corporate intranet.
27.Network Connections // Manages objects in the Network and Dial-Up Connections folder,
28. Network DDE //Provides network transport and security for Dynamic Data Exchange (DDE) for programs running on the same computer or on different computers.
29. Network Location Awareness (NLA) //Collects and stores network configuration and location information, and notifies applications when this information changes.
30. Plug and Play //Enables a computer to recognize and adapt to hardware changes with little or no user input.
31.Portable Media Serial Number Service//Retrieves the serial number of any portable media player connected to this computer.
32.Print Spooler
33.Protected Storage //rovides protected storage for sensitive data, such as private keys, to prevent access by unauthorized services, processes, or users.
34.QoS RSVP //Provides network signaling and local traffic control setup functionality for QoS-aware programs and control applets.
35.Remote Access Auto Connection Manager //Creates a connection to a remote network whenever a program references a remote DNS or NetBIOS name or address.
36. Remote Desktop Help Session Manager //Manages and controls Remote Assistance.
37.Terminal Services //llows multiple users to be connected interactively to a machine as well as the display of desktops and applications to remote computers. The underpinning of Remote Desktop (including RD for Administrators), Fast User Switching, Remote Assistance, and Terminal Server.
38. Themes
39.Uninterruptible Power Supply //Manages an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) connected to the computer.
40. Volume Shadow Copy //Manages and implements Volume Shadow Copies used for backup and other purposes.
41. Windows Installer// Installs, repairs and removes software according to instructions contained in .MSI files.
42. Wireless Zero Configuration //Provides automatic configuration for the 802.11 adapters
43. Windows Image Acquisition (WIA) //Windows Image Acquisition (WIA)
44.WebClient //Enables Windows-based programs to create, access, and modify Internet-based files.
45. Workstation //Creates and maintains client network connections to remote servers.
46. Windows Time //Maintains date and time synchronization on all clients and servers in the network
47.Telnet //Enables a remote user to log on to this computer and run programs, and supports various TCP/IP Telnet clients, including UNIX-based and Windows-based computers.
48. Task Scheduler//Enables a user to configure and schedule automated tasks on this computer
49. System Restore Service //Performs system restore functions.
50. Simple TCP/IP Services //Supports the following TCP/IP services: Character Generator, Daytime, Discard, Echo, and Quote of the Day.
51. Server //Supports file, print, and named-pipe sharing over the network for this computer.
52.Security Accounts Manager //Stores security information for local user accounts.
53. Routing and Remote Access //Offers routing services to businesses in local area and wide area network environments.
54. SNIP, to many to list.

Please review "Control Panel" -> "Administrative Tools" -> "Services" for services listed and compared that to AmigaOS3.9 (one add may add TCP/IP stack, Envoy network suite, Executive, USB stack, AHI drivers, hot links, beefed up Datatypes suite, VMM, user profile scripts*** i.e. an attempt match some of the missing features)...

***My custom AOS script that makes use of AmigaOS’s Pref and Env-Archive: i.e. duplicating some of Window’s user profiles features (e.g. swaping mupliple copies of ENV with corresponding user name. user name also link to drive locking ).

Use the search feature to list down *.exe (programs) within the Windows and subdirectories.

Have a browses through WINE/WINEX's source code for some hints...  

Check the following
C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386
C:\WINDOWS\Fonts
C:\WINDOWS\Help
C:\WINDOWS\inf (hidden) //Driver's inf files...e.g. 3DFX (PS; I don't even own 3DFX card)...
C:\WINDOWS\java
C:\WINDOWS\system32
C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers (drivers are stored here)

A cut down WinXP Pro/Home is called “Windows XP Embedded” i.e. single purpose Windows XP.

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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2003, 02:51:55 PM »
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But didn't Microsoft just introduce much similar system for Windows

Not quite. It uses Windows activation regime for non-corporate edition.  
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Re: Which OS are the worst and the best?
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2003, 11:52:48 PM »
@Atheist
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C:\WINDOWS\system32>dir dv*.dat
Volume in drive C is WinXPPro
Volume Serial Number is B01A-E609

Directory of C:\WINDOWS\system32

File Not Found
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 ;-)
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