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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« on: March 16, 2011, 10:55:08 PM »
:lol: iPad is a good tablet but hardly holy grail... That title belongs to the MacBook Air ;) hehehe

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2011, 11:22:48 AM »
I've been a long time anti-flash person... So I don't miss it at all, I have ClickToFlash installed on my Mac and that blocks out all unwanted flash, which are just adverts for sexual performance enhancing pills I'm not interested in anyway :)

HTML5 is better by a long shot :)

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2011, 12:20:55 AM »
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Good luck finding a "HTML5Block" plugin.
It's not the adverts I object to, if I see an ad that interests me, the I will click it. I like ad supported software/web sites... What I object to is the advert running the battery of my device flat in an hour... With click to flash installed my laptop's run time is almost three times longer when surfing! (I accept that the mac version of flash is crap, but I don't doubt Windows and Linux users would also see battery life improvements as well). Html5, on the other hand, doesn't seem to have much impact on CPU usage at all... HTML5 adverts are welcome on my browser :)

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2011, 12:24:23 AM »
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True, but they should have a health warning on them and only be allowed to show up between the hours of 3am & 5am and hidden away on another site altogether... :)
Ya can't live in a bubble, there is a whole world out there and it is made much more interesting by diversity... As much as I am happy with my crApple iDevices I wouldn't want the whole world using them (unless they all were going to buy my apps ;) ), I'm glad Apple have to compete with Google!

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2011, 08:28:19 AM »
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People who know how to play an instrument absolutely *do not* take it for granted. They too started out not knowing how to play, but spend years and year honing thier crafts and talents. This whole "instant music" thing is doing nothing but diluting the cesspool of garbage and lowers peoples expectations even further.
Nothing worthwhile in life comes easy. Want to play an instrument? Great. But it requires effort and like all art forms isnt as easy as simply pressing a few buttons, unless you want generic soulless rubbish, which this Garageband will produce 98% of the time. That's fine if a person simply wants to have fun, but I have a bad feeling that the crap made with this sort of stuff, combined with a marketable face will find itself in the mainstream from time to time. The more of ths crap there is, the more people accept it and standards lower. Apple are slowly but surely making more of a whore of the music industry as time goes by.
We are at that point already. A few years ago, I was working on an album and decided to take a break... Went to the chillout area of the studio and put the music channels on the TV... Over the course of an hour the chilling truth hit me; I was spending whole days working on single sounds and rewriting parts over and over again to get something fresh and original... Something that hopefully people would enjoy and appreciate... But as I sat there listening to the successful, commercial music... I heard nothing but boring simple chord progressions (the stuff you find in "My First Guitar" book), loops and auto tune.

If people can make this kind of music themselves, maybe they will learn to appreciate the hardwork that goes into making "real music", rather than handing over cash to talentless "artists", who do make music by pushing a button.

I'm not being cute here, in the past year, I have only heard one mainstream Album that doesn't have autotuned vocals and wasn't built almost entirely from of-the-shelf audio loops :(

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2011, 10:19:30 AM »
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Proper coders generally feel the same about "instant programming" tools like AMOS. :P
+1

DPaint and SoundTacker too

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #6 on: March 20, 2011, 09:50:16 AM »
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Karlos all i can say is wow! My question is do you really feel that way or did you get out of bed this morning on the wrong side? :)
:lol: Karlos's dislike of Apple is from his experience and probably well deserved... I have had an almost identical experience with Windows XP, I.e. Had to use it in an environment (live music) where it just wasn't suited and now I hate it and won't bother trying vista etc, as it lost me, I found another solution... Happy now, case closed. No need to peel off the scab.

For the record I only briefly used OSX before 10.4, and also hated it... Had I needed to work with it as Karlos did, I expect I would feel much the same.

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2011, 09:59:44 AM »
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@Kesa

Their software and "post PC" totally-non-upgradable-in-any-way-shape-or-form hardware is just plain sh!te. A triumph of marketing and consumerism over common sense.


I disagree here, I think the "Post PC" thing was inevitable. To be against it is a bit like telegraph operators lamenting the introduction of the Mobile Phone... :)

Hardware is a commodity, you now can build the device that suits your needs, you don't need a vendor. And that is true of most things, you could build cars washing machines, scissors, shelves... But you need the right tools and the right experience, the right education and the motivation... In the end most people just want to go to the shop and buy something that works and is safe to use. And that is where Apple make their money.

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #8 on: March 21, 2011, 03:14:09 PM »
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This explains why my MBP is so bloody slow since my battery exploded and I took it out!

http://gigaom.com/mobile/run-your-macboo/

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I never thought about that! I had an Acer laptop where the battery went bad, so I just used it as a desktop and the bloody thing kept switching off when doing anything demanding... I figured the thermal sensor was duff or something... Absolute pain, lost work as well... I didn't think that the battery would be the cause...

Without my usual Apple bias, I would say the Apple solution is actually more elegant...

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2011, 09:01:31 AM »
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So, as a user you are basically saying it's a fairly basic device for undemanding end-user applications. So in what sense, then, can it possibly be described as "the holy grail" of computing" ?

For a start, none of the tasks you have suggested are really what anybody would seriously call "computing". After all, consuming media and web surfing and so on is the sort of thing you can do on your average TV set in 2011.

To a serious user, the "holy grail" of computing is far more likely to be something that lets them do real work (whether that's creating content, coding or whatever else) with maximum efficiency, minimum hassle and as inexpensively as possible. Precisely the sort of activities you've dismissed it as being any use for.

Do you see why this kind of stupid "best thing evar!" hype gets on my tits now?
Well, that's obvious :) Coming fom the Amiga community I find it rather easy to tune out the Hype.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but it wasn't Apple that called the iPad2 the "Holy Grail of Computing", which it clearly isn't... But I would argue this is is pretty damn close for a consumer electronic computing device. Think of it like a washing machine, it does what it says it does on the box, it just works, turn it on use it... No worry, no difficulties.

Apple is trading here on the fact that MicroSoft, left big security holes in Win95 and if anything went wrong with your "PC"... You were going to have to take it to an expert to get it fixed, those are the two real features the iPad trades on, the rest is just fluff.

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #10 on: March 22, 2011, 01:44:26 PM »
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Shame Apple won't replace my exploded battery nor will they repair the damage it caused to my MBP.

Unlike the companies above.
Really?

Apple sent me a replacement battery and a letter stating that due to concerns regarding the battery they had issued me a replacement... Also included was a prepaid courier sticker to send the old battery back (I just took it to the apple store, as the Regent street one was on the way to work)... This was a few years ago (for my 1st gen MBP)... I never even knew about the issues they alluded to...

All I can think is your registered address was wrong :(

Everyone has issues with various companies, I think I've been lucky not to have issues with Apple yet (I've also not had any issues with HP, though I have far less HP equipment).

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2011, 02:22:39 PM »
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Bought two identical 17" MBP's on the same day in March 2008 from the Regent Street store, both have had the motherboard replaced more than once in the first six months, one had its dvd replaced twice,both had exploding batteries last year.

They definitely have my correct address too.
I would definately have issues with Apple if I had suffered the same... But I have bought a 12" PowerBook G4 (in use with my father), gen1 15" MBP (currently used by my younger brother), 2 gen2 15" MBPs (for live music), 1 late 2008 15" MBP (new style, currently my main computer), plus one 13" MB for girlfriend... All generations of iPhone (plus a couple of iPod nanos, and a 69gig iPod classic)... I have them still in use without issues (except the MB, the girl friend kept it when we broke up)... As I said, I think I've just been lucky, I've been pretty lucky with Amiga kit too thinking about it...

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Re: Apple's iPad 2 is the 'Holy Grail' of computing
« Reply #12 on: March 25, 2011, 08:44:40 AM »
Bit grumpy today... Here is what happened:

My girl friend entered a competition to win and iPad 1... She didn't win... Boo :(.
She did get second place, the prize a 16GB iPhone4... Yay :)
The company said that they were having problems getting an iPhone4...  Boo :(
The company have sent her £530 cash alternative... Yay! :)

I said "Cool, you can get the the iPad you wanted now, with the money", actually an iPad2 since that is released today... She says "not sure I want iPad now... I want shoes"... Boo :(

Stoopid women ;)