Why is Morphos considered by many as the 'new Amiga OS' ?

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pVC wrote:

sdyates wrote:
AROS runs on intel...

But AROS doesn't run Amiga software...

Like Linux compiled for the PPC doesn't run software compiled for Linux on the x86... I don't see a difference.

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Piru wrote:
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Like Linux compiled for the PPC doesn't run software compiled for Linux on the x86... I don't see a difference.

But MorphOS PPC runs the m68k amiga software (transparently, without need for UAE or amigaos files). Wasn't that the point the original poster was trying to make?

Indeed, I expect he was. I'm just a little fed up with this comment being repeated over an over again.

I guess I'm in the fortunate position that there is simply no software I would want/need to run on the Amiga platform that wouldn't also need the hardware... i.e. games and very old apps.

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Krusher wrote:

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I guess I'm in the fortunate position that there is simply no software I would want/need to run on the Amiga platform that wouldn't also need the hardware... i.e. games and very old apps.

You are not into demo's/intro's then?

Yes, those are covered in my requirements. I was simply stating that MOS, AOS4 and AROS are all equally as useful/Valid as NG AmigaOS clones... since they would all require UAE in order to run the software I want to run... thus AROS is the cheapest/easiest solution for me.

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Therefore I would require the original AmigaOS for all three. The big difference is that AROS can (and is slowly) be ported to the 68k and thus the need or the original AmigaOS can be negated in time.

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Krusher wrote:
Right, well, I'll just have to wait for UAE integration. For me, Amiga is pre AmigaOS 3.9, and I love those silly demo's that go hardcore on the hardware. So for me it's a must that Aros is 100% compatible with ALL software out there.

Which AROS can be since it will use UAE as it's default legacy support. But MOS and AOS4 running on non "Amiga Classic' will also require UAE to achieve the same, though UAE won't be integrated and WILL require AmigaOS (or a 68k version of AROS :-) ).

This is very slightly off topic... the point is that all three are equally valid.

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Krusher wrote:

motorollin wrote:
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But remember that for all of them, there is currently only one solution for full classic compatibility: UAE. And I bet when AROS gets UAE integration, it will gain a LOT more popularity.

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moto

Wake me up when that's finished, I'd be happy to dual boot that on x86 native. As of yet, Aros is pointless to me. And I've never used MOS so I can't comment on that.

Most things are useless until they are finished... But fortunately, most people identify their requirements and then invest (time or money) into a project so that it can meet their needs.

Think of it like the Airbus A380 project... 10 years ago, airlines didn't sit around {bleep}ing that the aircraft was useless because it hadn't flown... they committed to orders with the understanding that Airbus would eventually get the thing flying...

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Piru wrote:
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the point is that all three are equally valid.

They are equally valid assuming you are not interested in running OS friendly apps at all.

If you are, AROS is (currently) falling behind. AROS is boldly talking about "in progress" components as if they already were finished. Integration might make it less sucky, but it remains to be seen how integrated it ends up to be. Also, the amigaos requirement isn't going away that easily (the KS replacement is quite large task, just all the compatibility testing and hacking will be total nightmare).

Of course you are correct, but as I stated earlier... my Classic Amiga requirements are very heavily reliant upon the old amiga hardware.

As I was involved in the discussions regarding the requirements for UAE integration, it will meet my needs :-)

You are also correct about the scale of the KS task, and frankly that makes is so much more exciting... far more than finding a solution for running ibrowse without the need for my A1200 or UAE* :-)


*apologies for the facetiousness of this sentence.

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itix wrote:

Which AROS can be since it will use UAE as it's default legacy support. But MOS and AOS4 running on non "Amiga Classic' will also require UAE to achieve the same, though UAE won't be integrated and WILL require AmigaOS (or a 68k version of AROS ).

Would be cool to send DOS packets from 68k application to x86 native filesystem via PutMsg() interface. I just hope user is not attempting to run old Amiga demo that takes control over system because when x86 filesystem responds to my DOS packet there is nobody left.

Oops.

How this is going to work, in real?

I'm not sure I understand the example...

A 68k OS legal app make a filesystem request... and then mid way through the operation the user decides to run a Hardware hitting Demo (which would probaby needa reboot?)... am I right? I don't understand.

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itix wrote:
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I'm not sure I understand the example...

I tend to complicate my thoughts. Lets simplify ideas and check step one:

Will x86 native applications and 68k native applications share the same address space?

No. They will be separate.

-Edit- Ok, I understand where you are going with this :-)