dylansmrjo wrote:
bloodline wrote:
Both are very much obsolete!!! No one in their right mind would buy these technologies any more.
PCI and AGP 8x isn't obsolete. There are newer standards, but mobos with PCI-E are approx. 5-8 times more expensive than mobos with good old PCI and AGP 8x. Most graphics card are still AGP-based, and 32-bit PCI is still the most widely used standard.
The fact that there are newer standards, does not make older standards obsolete. It'll take 12-18 months before they can be considered obsolete for the home user.
The last Motherboard I bought, back in January (almost a year ago) was PCIe (nForce 4 based), it cost me £50... it was actually one of the cheapest boards I could buy at the time!
Only hardcore gamers benefit from PCI-E and DDR-RAM2.
Not really. I just don't want to spend money on a product that will only last me a few months before I can't upgrade/find parts for it.
I wouldn't buy a DDR ram machine anymore either... DDR2 is now the minimum spec, I would part with cash for.
Well, you're a hardcore gamer, right?
No... but I do use my machine as a Digial Audio Workstation... so I guess I'm in a similar terratory....
I don't buy expensive stuff. I buy the cheap stuff, and a lot of that. 1024 MB DDR-RAM is much better than 256 MB DDR-RAM2 :-P
True, but RAM is one of the things that you always have an upgrade cycle with... no point buying a Mobo which gets more expensive to upgrade over time.
You also consider 32-bit CPUs obsolete, right? And parallel IDE? Despite the fact that most computers sold are still 32-bit and most harddisks are still parallel IDE?
I wouldn't buy a 32bit CPU any more (though to be fair I bought one in May, when I got a G4 PowerBook, but laptops are not upgrade machines so they don't count)...
I Certainly would never buy a P-ATA drive. But then my nForce 4 Mobo has 4 (3 empty) S-ATA slots...
REPEATING: The fact that there are newer standards, does not make older standards obsolete.
Um... yeah it does. :-P
Obsolete and over priced, it always has been.
Nope, just overpriced. Look at it from home user perspective, and not from a narrowminded clueless stupid hardcore gamer, who knows next to nothing about optimizing a system :lol:
I look on it as a system that I plan to get a few years use out of, meaning a planned upgrade cycle.
If I was just a Home user, I get a Mac Mini. No upgrade plans, and all the software I need built in.
Not a major risk, simply an impossibility, the money is not there.
Nothing is impossible. However, certain actions are extremely risky.
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Quoting Depeche Mode isn't going to get you browine points... actually it does, so I'll agree with you even though I don't ;-)
An x86-64 board would be better.
Well, it would be overkill. But it wouldn't be bad. But x86-64 is still 5-8 times more expensive than a standard 32-bit system. Remember: Selling for the masses, not the classes. We don't care about hardcore gamers, we care about the home user. No need for anything above 1.5 GHz, nor higher than AGP 8x or DDR-RAM.
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I disagree, an x86-64 based solution would be cheaper than most systems... and certainly give you more bang for your buck.
