MiamiDX and Airport Base

[Reflex]

Hello,

I decided to use My Airport Extreme Base to extend my wireless internet connection to all the computers I have at home.
Then I plugged my beloved Amiga 4000PPC + Mediator and Ethernet PCI board to the aiport base.
The aiport base receive the internet signal wifi and the Amiga is supposed to receive the signal through it.

The Macbook connects wifi to the base and go online without problems but the amiga don't.

I set MiamiDX this way:
Device: FastEthernet.device
Type: Ethernet
IP Type: DHCP
NetMask: 255.255.255.0
Gateway: Airport Base IP (PRI 10)
Multicast: Disabled

when I press (online) miami try to by after some seconds it tells me that "Miami Deluxe is unable to determine your local IP address"

What's wrong?

[Reflex]

I guess you are using WEP? Sounds like you just have encryption problem if it did work before. Anyway, I have heard of MiamiDX having DHCP issues with some routers, so you can also try and manually set your ip address, netmask, gateway, and see if that gets things working.

Oh sorry, I misunderstood. Still, try and set the IP address manually...

no it didn't work before. My amiga have been not surfing the web since 2005

Anyway yes it has a WEP/WPA passwordto protect the hard disk that is on the USB port.

The problem is that I don't know the IP number that is assigned to the amiga!

[Reflex]

reflex

If running  miamidx use shell command: ifconfig

(or ipconfig) forget

this will give you your ip address (read miami dx docs)

sorry... it looks like I have not such a command on my amiga!

[Reflex]

Reflex

You need to be in Miami: directory


so open shell and type:

Miami:
then
ifconfig

and again Read the Miami dox

Also mac routers dont behave well with non apple machines/os from my experience. I had the extreme airport and it didnt like the pcs one of the laptops couldnt even connect to it try to hardline it into the router see what happens as Miami DX DHCP very good. I'm using that tcp/ip stack with my a1200 and a Dlink wifi n router with DHCP no problem

*Did you try Miami INIT? If not do so now *

I'm not that Dumb.

1) Miami init behave the same way. It isn't able to find IP addresses

2) I tried that command Miamiifconfig... well I tried all the commands I found in Miami directory but with no result.

[Reflex]

the problem is your amiga is not getting an ip address.

your router will typically be like 192.168.1.1 and it will assign like 192x168.1.100 - 150 or something via DHCP. just pick a number that is not in DHCP range, like 192.168.1.33 or something.

In fact the router has 192.168.1.1 as IP address, airport base has 192.168.1.110 and the macbook 192.168.1.104.
Why do you believe that putting a random IP address will solve the problem? isn't the IP address chosen by the router?

maybe do I have to set a manually configured routes?

[Reflex]

Because every device on the network needs a unique IP address. It does not work without one.




Many modern devices are able to ask the router for a dynamic IP address. But if this does not work like in your case, you have to give it a static address. Just choose one which no other device already has.

I knew that every device on the network needs to have a unique IP address but I believed that you have to use the same IP address that the Router assign to your device otherwise it will not work.
Anyway I tried using IP 192.168.1.200 and it didn't work too

[Reflex]

ok, thats good... now that you have assigned a static IP, try and issue the command

ping 192.168.1.1 (or whatever your router is)

if you get a response then you'll need to also manually set your DNS to your router, or openDNS 8.8.8.8 (i think) and you are good to go...

If you don't get a response (and you have done everything correctly) then I guess you'll need to get a different router because nobody is going to fix MIAMI's flaky DHCP at this point....

good luck

I'm really sorry to have been misunderstaken. When I only used Amiga i was quite expert on miami, after 10 years I forgot almost everything, I wanted to try the solution you suggested to me, I really appreciated it.

Then I didn't configure a manual route, i put the static IP address 192.168.1.200 and pinged it, this is the result:

ping wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1

[Reflex]

I'm really sorry to have been misunderstaken. When I only used Amiga i was quite expert on miami, after 10 years I forgot almost everything, I wanted to try the solution you suggested to me, I really appreciated it.

Then I didn't configure a manual route, i put the static IP address 192.168.1.200 and pinged it, this is the result:

ping wrote 192.168.1.1 64 chars, ret=-1

these are 2 pics of the Network utility I run from My macbook.

the second one has been shot when I sent a ping from the amiga to the macbook, as you can see the macbook sees the ip of my amiga (192.168.1.201).
Otherwise the amiga is not seen on the connection.

[Reflex]

Humm... maybe it is working. the ping response does not seem right. I'll try to see what it should look like on my 1200..

Humm, it should definately say "time=xxxms" if its working right. But it is "MiamiPing" you are using, right? I totally forgot its not simply ping.

Also you can attempt to ping the amiga from the mac or ping the mac vs the router, or ping the router from the mac... all useful info.

Under databases/DNS maske sure to put in 192.168.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 (as a backup) maybe with DNS it will all magically start working

Oh edit:

I was reading up on the airport base station, to see how it works because that's the part of your setup I'm not familiar with(if that would be a double NAT, etc) . Anyway I see it supports 100mb and gigabit Ethernet, no mention of 10MB...

today after work I'll try the solution you suggested me, anyway I have a 100MB ethernet board on my mediator... a Realtek RT8139 board...
Anyway yesterday I tried to put another IP address, 192.168.1.33 and it worked!!! I goy response from router!
But when I tried a second ping test is was not working again


ok I did it, I put a static IP address using the macbook one, 192.168.1.104 and the result is the same. But I noticed that if the interface is offline the ping behaves like before (ret=-1), when I put the interface online the shell freezes up...

[Reflex]

Humm... maybe it is working. the ping response does not seem right. I'll try to see what it should look like on my 1200..

Humm, it should definately say "time=xxxms" if its working right. But it is "MiamiPing" you are using, right? I totally forgot its not simply ping.

Also you can attempt to ping the amiga from the mac or ping the mac vs the router, or ping the router from the mac... all useful info.

Under databases/DNS maske sure to put in 192.168.1.1 and 8.8.8.8 (as a backup) maybe with DNS it will all magically start working

Oh edit:

I was reading up on the airport base station, to see how it works because that's the part of your setup I'm not familiar with(if that would be a double NAT, etc) . Anyway I see it supports 100mb and gigabit Ethernet, no mention of 10MB...

Update, today I tried to ping the aiport base.
Well pinging worked from mac, but from amiga I had the real same repli (ret=-1)
so it seems that the amiga is no able to talk with airport base too

what does it mean?

[Reflex]

Reflex

You may be wasting your time, i told you mac airports are notorious for problems. Just google it.  I couldnt even connect my gf's pc laptop to my old airport express with WPA!

so the only problem is WPA password of the airport base?
It looks strange though...

[Reflex]

I don't recall you mentioning if you were getting an ethernet link LED(s). Check that.. When you attempt to ping do you see any activity on the 8139's LEDs?

Double check that your Amiga network board is still working by hooking it up however you had it before. Perhaps the card died or something with Miami has has gotten messed up or maybe its as simple as a bad network cable.

Finally, I guess guess it means that the 8139 and the airport base are not compatible. Seems unlikely though...

good luck

When I turn on the amiga I get green led on the Amiga 100/ACT and green on the Airport base.
When I ping or when I try to use a browser and the interface is online, the green led flashes just once on the amiga side then nothing more happens

[Reflex]

I thought you were connected directly to the base via ethernet?

You won't need a passwd in that case.

in fact I'm connected using an Ethenet cable, I don't think there is any wifi adaptor I can use with my amiga 4000. Maybe there was a little confusion.
So I have an Ethernet 8139D PCI board on my Mediator and use it to connect the airport base. that's all.