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[TheDaddy]

@chutjahr

>>So comparing the x1000 to PPC Macs is not "useless chat" - it's just that you don't care?

No. I said there are some people who are using these tests to discredit OS4 and the X1000 knowing perfectly well that the X1000 as a machine hasn't been around for long but they quickly jump on it to rip apart.

>>That's good for you, but why come into this thread and tell us to shut up?

No. See above.


>>Because I have fun with OS4 and want it to develop further.
Your idea of "letting OS4 develop further" is to tell potential customers to "go away and use MorphOS"?

Which potential customers? The same ones running the benchmarks? Please as if you'd be interested in buy "overpriced and underpowered hardware", so you are telling me that even if we find out that the X1000 is slightly slower than a mac you'd still be interested in buying it?


>>How many x1000 computers did they sell? 120? 140?

I don't know the exact number but they went within a matter of hours and more have been requested so they are not up there with mighty apple and its dodgy ways of producing hardware yet. If I were takemehomegranma instead of running weird and unnecessary parallels between Operating Systems and people starving I'd check the way those apple ipads, imac and ipods are manufactured and the conditions those workers and children have to endure so people can have a shiny iphone.

[TheDaddy]

Well, obviously, but that doesn't make their decisions good.

True. But I can not change that. I like OS4 and I need a machine to run it on. I now have a few choices. I could even say f*ck everything and stick with Win7 but I know I'd miss messing about with it.

You have watched my video of OS4.1.4 running on my SAM440ep. Well it's less powerful than a netbook but I put a quick SSD in and it transformed it. I enjoy pushing the little beast and last night I was running Quake 1 and Quake 2 at the same time, then I added Quake 3 and it started stuttering until it stopped. I would miss doing this kind of mad stuff.

Anyway I am off to finish part two of the video.

This is what really stops the Amiga from coming back...there is no unity.

Peace!

[TheDaddy]

Over the last couple of years the community has continued to surprise me.

I bought a Mac Quicksilver is anticipation of the MorphOS port and outfitted it with an SB Live card and an NEC USB 2.0 card (both PC components). When the port was released, everything worked fine.
I spent over a year considering what hardware would suit a new PPC system (even consulting Varisys, who's staff btw discouraged the consideration of the PA6T in favor of the Qorlq line).
When I first heard of the X1000, I was worried that the project would never see fruition as I knew how difficult and expensive an undertaking it was going to be.
And now its here, and it works.

Treavor DOES deserve congratulations. He succeeded against amazing odds.
So what if its expensive?
Don't like the price? Buy an Acube board or a Mac.
No one's forcing you into this.
The naysayers ought to be ashamed.
This is not a negative, its an accomplishment.

Must...not...say it....argh! Damn! I totally agree... :-D

[TheDaddy]

Let's just be happy someone even bothers to make new hardware for the Amiga market...

[TheDaddy]

@Piru

>>I'm not sure if there's reason for happiness if it means that more cost effective solutions are ruled out, and you get all sort of nasty side-effects instead.

Nope. Happy means that until 2006-7 there was nothing to run OS4 on.

If anything goes wrong with the new hardware we'll surely find alternatives, I am 100% behind ACube and their immense efforts.

But, sorry to ask this, why do you care so much? Don't you develop MOS?

[TheDaddy]

@kas1e

>>That just wrong. If there is enough cheap and good old hw (like macs with g4/g5) there is no point in making new hardware unless it will be faster _a lot_ , and "a bit" more cost in compare with other solutions.

Oh blimey! This is not the case so why keep going on about it? They have decieded to not use old macs for OS4, end of story, let's move on. We have ACube and the X1000. One day maybe things will change and everyone will be running OS4 on a 12 core x86 machine.

>>X1000 in end of all , after 2 years of spending time and resources on it, mean about the same speed as macs, a lot higher price, no drivers for every onboard device, no support for that absolutly, and tottally unnecessary xena crap about what there was so much fuzz.

Well I don't know why they decided to go that way, maybe they wanted to create something new, maybe in the future all those things on the motherboard will be used and supported, maybe they made mistakes, we don't know. Time will tell. But at the moment I wouldn't mind an X1000 just for the simple fact that the cpu is the fastest I can get for OS4.

[TheDaddy]

It's good to know all the facts. When you do, you can do informed choices.


Yes. Why? I care about lots of things, not just those surrounding MorphOS.

I know you may not like it, but guess if I care?

So it's not to underline how crap OS4 is? Because if it's not the hardware then it must be the software...anyway we agree to disagree.

[TheDaddy]

Regarding the less than stellar X1000 performance: There is a problem somewhere. I have no idea if it's hardware or software (*). Hopefully it's a) something that can be fixed b) will be fixed soon. 2nd core support will likely take quite some time though.

*) Someone doing some linux benchmarking would easily be able to tell if the issue is a software one.

That sounds like a better idea.
It's such a shame that so many skilled and talented programmers have to work on different operating systems...oh well...