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Re: Amiga vs PC
« on: August 16, 2010, 04:42:19 PM »
Quote from: B00tDisk;574980
jesus christ man yes it does, I've run Fleet Defender and Pirates! Gold in 3.1 under DOSBox.


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I think you're on the other side of a semantic arguement here:

Can I run a Workbench application on WinUAE? No
Can I install Amiga OS3.1 on WinUAE and run a Workbench application on that? Yes

Now, transposing the principle:

Can I run a Windows3.1 executable file on DosBox? No
Can I install Windows3.1 on DosBox and run a Windows3.1 executable file on that? Yes

The point is that dosbox is not capable of running a Windows 3.1 applications without installing the Windows 3.1 operating system.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2010, 04:46:07 PM »
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http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=9405

Here's a guide for you to run win3.1 in dosbox. Happy now?


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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2010, 11:00:37 AM »
Quote from: Arkhan;575025
quit sounding like a ******* * ** *****

Thankyou for proving my point.
There is a certain etiquette in interacting in the forums which it seems you have yet to learn.

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and no kidding you have to install Win3.1 to run Win3.1 apps. Your argument is the equivalent of going

THE COMPUTAR SEZ THERE NO OS INSTALLED NOW I CAN'T RUN GOOGLECHROME, THIS IS A POS. I'M GOING BACK TO MY AMIGA.

Actually, I was simply clarifying a point that was going round in circles over several pages. The nub of the arguement was being lost in recrimination, and clarification seemed to be the way to go.

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Everyone that says M$ blows, WINDOZE IS SUCK, etc. etc.  is an idiot.  End of story.  Its fine if you think Amiga computers are still the bees knees, but take off your rose tinted glasses and get with the times already.

If you read back through my arguements in this thread you'll find that... err, I haven't made any. Consequently, your ramblings against me are totally inane.

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If they (M$) blow so bad explain why any computer you buy has the latest Windows on it.  Explain why most corporations use Windows and other M$ stuff.  I think the majority of the haters had a PEBKAC issue they were too dense to solve, and decided the entire thing was worthless.

Explain why M$'s Xbox 360 is a pretty massive success and the first console to easily allow homebrew development on?

If omgLINUX was packaged on every PC at BestBuy, IT would be what is most targeted for bullshit spyware/nonsense.  Why would spyware people want to target the minority.  That's why your Amigas don't get viruses when you go on the googlemachine.  The world at large doesn't give a damn about them anymore.

The times have changed, everything has evolved, Commodore/Amiga dropped the ball and lost.  Now there are sleeker, better, faster things to do your computing on.  Amiga's are nice nostalgia trips, and still nice to play games on if thats your thing, but they can't compete with modern hardware.  Do you think Pixar is using Amiga's? No.  

Nasa? Nope.

If all you're doing on the modern computer is jacking off on facebook, whatever.  Go for it.   It may be mundane to alot of people who do more intense stuff........ but you still can't do it on an Amiga.


Still not relevant, see above.

However I believe that for my main computer use (FEA) a 64-bit system (rather than 32-bit) would actually slow down my solve times, due to the iterative addressing of a matrix of several hundred thousand/millions of simultaneous equations (overhead of translating 64-bit addresses vs 32-bit).
Obviously, in the case where the matrix exceeded the available physical memory in a 32-bit system, a 64-bit system would be better (still quicker than paging).

I would also not be surprised if this were the case for large renders, but that is not something I am currently working on (although I'm looking at expanding into this overlapping field in the near future as an additional tool in the kit)..

Enjoy your games...
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2010, 11:05:42 AM »
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Hey, thats what I'm packin for the FF14 release at the end of september.

Gotta be top notch, or its no good.


Ahh, consumerism 101.

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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #4 on: August 17, 2010, 03:14:49 PM »
Quote from: Karlos;575111
Have you investigated GPGPU for this class of problem? Finite Element Analysis is  one of the areas there are several CUDA precedents for.



Given that the largest models I've been working with (around 600,000 elements) have tended to be overnight solves (just linear static analysis with a sparse solver) it would be the natural way to go, but as yet I haven't: lack of suitable hardware myself, and lack of forward thinking employers willing to spend a few £ to save a lot of £ (in man-hours) than anything else.

I just need a cash injection of a few thousand though if you'd like me to look into it for you... just a drop in the ocean on those Amiga.org moderator's wages, right? ;-)

It always surprised me that the likes of Ansys did not supply dedicated hardware on a PCI(/e) card for higher-end customers (dedicated fastest ram available, dedicated co-processor, and optimised code for said processor.
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2010, 03:24:01 PM »
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What etiquette is that?  Don't tell it like it is?  I treat forums like I treat outside.  I don't talk like I'm sitting on a throne in a castle.  You sound like a twat when you type, and I sound like a sarcastic prick.  Whoopeedoo.  If you can't handle being talked to harshly, how do you survive the real world?  Earmuffs?  
No, I usually find walking away from arseholes helps quite a lot though.
If a person cannot engage with arguements, resorting to child-like foot-stamping, name-calling, and posturing, that's usually a good sign that they have nothing of value to contribute.

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They weren't all directed at you.
Then perhaps you should learn to address your comments towards the person at whom you are directing them.

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Way to be a bigot.
Bigot? Explain how..

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You need deck as eff hardware for FF14.  Otherwise you're going to be pulling shit FPS and crying.
No, you would be crying, I'd be looking for something more interesting to do than online wanking with a group of anonymous strangers who are the nearest thing to a group of friends I can insinuate myself into.

Damn, say what you want about me from here on friend, I'm not going to get drawn further into a flamefest with someone who is clearly not interested in intelligent discussion of any kind.

/thread interest
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2010, 04:43:16 PM »
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Haha, that's funny. Not in a "haha" funny way though.... one sentence of absolute trite (who are you to dictate what computer entertainment people enjoy?) followed by a claim of a lack of interest in non intelligent conversation.

1) I have not dictated what computer entertainment people can enjoy, merely refuted the implication that I would be upset over such things (and reversed the insinuation).

2) I have not claimed a lack of interest in unintelligent conversation - hell, the majority of my leisure time is spent talking shite with my friends - merely a lack of interest in continuing a flamefest with one individual when the thread itself had (some pages ago) some content of interest.

3) Trite is an adjective, not a noun. I may have been talking tripe (putting it politely), or my comments may be seen as being trite (I have no problem or particular disagreement with either of these statements) but I can state with certainty that I have never in my life produced a sentence of absolute trite.

4) Add pedantic to the list... :P
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Re: Amiga vs PC
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2010, 12:28:35 PM »
Quote from: Arkhan;575191
Theres plenty to contribute, you just think it all has to be delivered in a 5-page essay format complete with douche-tastic sounding phrases that you probably don't use in real life but do here because you have plenty of time to formulate everything.  
Mainly force of habit. Amiga forums are generally full of people from varying nationalities, which makes the use of slang phrases etc a barrier to communication.
Just for you, I've tried to extend this post to 5 pages :)

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If you talk like that in real life, do you also prance around in robes and wave a scepter around and demand your subjects bring you crisps and whatnot?
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You're too busy polishing your scepter and demanding tea from your servants to lrn2forum.
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If you don't believe me, have your subjects draw up the private jet and come here in a month.  
Never been to Hull, have you mate?

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Not everyones going to deliver statements and opinions in a high and mighty Tolstoy approach.  You tout intelligence.  Use it to comprehend this simple fact.
But... you weren't delivering statements, or even opinions, just bile & insults. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to proof-read prior to posting.

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Everyone buys computer hardware.  You do, I do, the rest of the forum does.  Acting like you're above it all because you don't buy the latest stuff is pretty stupid of you.
Yes, but there's a difference between buying a new computer/component because it's needed (or wanted), and rushing out every couple of months to buy Teh l33test sh1t!1!!1

The consumerism comment was just meant as a half-joke/half-truth. Try to pick either half.

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Aww whats the matter wittle baby?  Now YOU ran out of things to contribute so you have to resort to spewing ignorance?
Guilty as charged, I am ignorant of your personal circumstances and should not have commented in such a way: I unreservedly apologise.

Personally, I am not interested in gaming (at least, not in the currently available arenas which I have seen), but do not seek to disparage those who are. Nor, if I were, would I do it by putting on a baby voice (in written form). Jeez.

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All of my friends preordered the game too.  If you read the rest of this thread, you'd see that I stated I am a gamer.  A pretty serious one, as is the rest of the group I game with.  Sounds like you are projecting, and butt-hurt that you have noone to game with so you fap to your Amiga since noone wants to interact with wannabes like you on games.
Err... no.
Haven't powered up my A4KT in around 12 months, pretty much since MorphOS was released on the Mac-mini. Before that it has lived in a box in my wardrobe for a couple of house-moves.

It's been many years since I saw a PC-game which has held my interest for more than an hour or two.

One of the reasons I've decided to sell my PS3 (amongst many) is that the gaming interface is shite (at least, for FPS's). Going back to a joystick control system (moving a cursor around the screen) after the responsive point'n'shoot of the Wiimote is just plain wrong for me.
Plus the annoyance.. it's like being on call all the time.
Plus its inability to deal with external USB drives properly, inability to multitask (at all), shit indexing system, inability to handle many media formats, poor networking capabilities, etc, etc, etc.
Basically, the PS3 ended up being pretty much only a media centre. A task to which it is entirely inadequate.

I decided that my MorphOS system will perform better as a media centre once AMC is released than my PS3 (for my purposes - I have no blu-ray/HD collection), and I won't miss the PS3 as a gaming platform.

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That stupid little statement from you really reduced all of your pompous nonsense to nothing.  YOU DONE GOOFED SON.

You say this yet continue to post in the thread.  Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.  Shut up and go diddle around in a new thread, or stay and cope with the madness.
Please enjoy your holiday from Amiga.org... ;)
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