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Offline ferrellsl

Re: Very hard to understand
« on: March 13, 2015, 04:09:03 AM »
I have to disagree with the post earlier that claims that many Pi users/buyers will get around to trying some flavor of AmigaOS on their Pi.  Most Pi users/buyers have never even heard of an Amiga and even if they have, they don't want to load an OS that has no software base to speak of, other than 20+ year old games and a few apps that are so woefully outdated that they'd have to be masochists.  There's nothing compelling enough to get them to run ANY of the various Amigoid operating systems.  Most Pi users/buyers acquired the Pi to play with some variant of Linux or Android. It's like saying that people who buy a modern i7 processor will want to try running CP/M or MS-DOS on it.  Until any of the various Amigoid operating systems offer something more than just being different, no one will adopt/use it.  And right now, even the best of the Amigoid operating systems haven't achieved rough parity with Windows 95.  I wish people would stop playing these absurd "what if" games and start living in reality.  Even if Aeon and Hyperion were to magically update OS4 to support modern hardware, SMP, 3D graphics, etc....no one will adopt it.  Home users and offices already have a huge investment in current software and systems that work.  And they're not going to just throw that out the window no matter how much some of you here want to relive the glory days of the Amiga. All the Amigoid operating systems are just curiosities or hobbies to the RATIONAL people here and outside of this site.  Unfortunately we have blind, religious zealots who troll this site and hijack nearly every thread with this absurd talk of how an Amigoid OS is going to take the world by storm if it simply had this, that or the other feature...or modern hardware.  Wake the f@ck up.
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Offline ferrellsl

Re: Very hard to understand
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2015, 05:25:32 PM »
Quote from: Lionheart;786353


  I'm not asking you to buy anything and I have no intention of selling a custom made board.  What I suggest is an open standard for creating a console/computer running AROS.  Using a Raspberry Pi, BeagleBone,HummingBoard, Orange Pi, pcDuino3 nano...etc, it would even be possible to add an FPGA expansion that would also allow it to function as a Minimig.  The benefit of doing this would give AROS a standard to run on and increase development and interest in the OS.  Even Linux has trouble supporting all the hardware available on the PC, which is another reason why MorphOS sticks with Power Macs and OS4 sticks to their expensive custom boards.  It would be easier for AROS to get one open standard single-board computer working well than a thousand different PCs.  It's a better starting point.  The console aspect and homebrew community development could set them apart from their competitors, as Amiga has a better reputation when it comes to gaming than Linux.



There's already a standard system for running AROS.  It's an x86 system.  Or if you cling to 68K, then run 68K AROS on classic hardware, one of the UAE variants, or on a MiniMig.  No one in their right mind wants to run any Amigoid OS on a console.  What would be the point of dedicating a console to a dead OS?  To play 25 yr old side-scrollers?  Why would anyone complicate a Pi by adding an FPGA like you suggest?  It isn't needed.  The MiniMig already does what you're suggesting without the overhead and cost of a Pi.  This is getting absurd.

Once again, another thread hijacked by someone who believes that an Amigoid OS would take the world by storm "if".
 

Offline ferrellsl

Re: Very hard to understand
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2015, 05:38:25 AM »
Quote from: Lionheart;786360
Once again, another thread hijacked by someone who can't read.  I never said that an Amigoid OS would take the world by storm.  My idea would at least make the Minimig cheaper and not just a custom made board replicating an A500.

OK.  Then please explain your lack of math skills.  How does adding an FPGA extension to a dev board or a Pi make for a cheaper system than a standalone Minimig that already does everything you've outlined?  The Minimig already has the functionality you're talking about and the extra pins to implement it as well, so again, your suggestion is a bit absurd.  It's recreating the wheel and making it more complicated and more expensive as well.  Or one could use the FPGA Replay board.  It has even more expandability and it's available as well.

And I read what you wrote quite clearly and even quoted it in my response and now you're trying to say something different.  You suggested that a console created from a dev board with an FPGA extension to run AROS is a good idea.  It isn't.  There are already better options for that, and cheaper too.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2015, 05:56:04 AM by ferrellsl »