by lempkee on 2006/1/10 8:38:56
u guys must be mental or something ..sorry but wtf are you guys on about?
Yes, I am mental! Why else would I still love to use an Amiga?
you guys (and haynie too) are missing a crucial thing here, morphos and os4 has been dooing everyting on their own more or less
So which is it the more or the less? I'm going with the later until I see something I can get my hands on. (even if it is four years late)
look at all the fancy stuff mos and os4 has, look how stagnated the 68k arena is, ever crossed your mind why?
First of all, my 68K Amiga exists and I can touch it and use it. I can't speak about MOS, but as far as OS4 is concerned... How the heck do you expect me to "look at all the fancy stuff mos and os4 has". I can't buy OS4 software, even if I could buy it, what hardware am I to run it on? That doesn't seem to exist either. The only people who have OS4 are the few select developers who did get it. This is not the majority of the Amiga user base. How many people own an Amiga one? I'm hearing people on here talking of jumping on the first available opportunity to dump their Micro A1. What conclusion should that bring to someone's mind?
i belived it was time to show the world what a slow ass machine can do if the OS running on it was amazing , doing such on a x86..sure would probably be cool but who will support and make drivers for the millions of types of boards and so on?
Yeah, sure that would be cool. But why shoot for the bottom of the pile? Think of how much cooler it would be to run OS4 on a top of the line state of the art system. (The system that Amiga once was.) Wouldn't it be cool to walk into your local Walmart and pay $499 USD for a system and the clerk says to you "So which operating system would you like with that? Do you want the Bloated Windows operating system that will use up the majority of your hard drive space so that you won't have any room for your pictures and movies and that will require gigabytes worth up updates to keep it from crashing and to keep you safe from every threat known to a CPU register? OR... would you rather have this kick ass Amiga operating system that uses less than a Gig of your hard drive space, supports open document formats, runs at more than twice the speed of it's nearest counter part and is fully backward compatible so that you can also play all of those old games you remember from your childhood. Oh, and by the way, if you really want to run Windows, well you can run that under emulation, along with OS-X, Linux, etc."
If the only concern was running super fast on outdated hardware then Amithlon would be sufficient to appease the masses who would soon loose interest anyway.
As far as who writes the drivers, well, who writes the drivers of X86 hardware now? It seems that it would be more detremental to an operating system to try to support hardware that is old and going obsolete than it would be to support current and upcomming hardware. How much hardware from 1994 does Windows XP support? Even Bill gates realizes that there comes a time to pull the plug and kill the life support on somethings.
Look, I'm willing to support any development that supports the Amiga. If OS4 comes out and some matching hardware, I will probably buy it. But no developer has the right, nor should they have an expectation for support from a community for which they have developed nothing.
and that is exactley what it is right now... NOTHING!
Oh yes, I know it hurts the developers to hear this, I've been there myself. But the reality is until OS4 hits the shelf in a box with a price sticker on it and a hardware platform that it can run on exists then it is NOTHING! Yes, I know developers have toiled away for hours at code, but one bean counter can kill all of that effort with one mighty stroke of the pen through a zero!
As much as you may find this thread insulting to your efforts with OS4, many people would find it insulting to be told something that has no evidence of existance is the future we should be looking to. I'm not even talking that tangible evidence is required. Hell, lie to us if you want but at least be convincing. Amiga, Inc, etc. has done a pretty poor job of that to say the least.
You know, I typically hate reading this stuff and even more so hate propagating and contributing to these types of threads, but come on guys! Lets face the truth! OS4 development has been slow and misguided by almost any standard. It's time to SH#T or get off the pot!
And NO I'm not trolling! I don't have any agenda for any of these platforms or OS's! Most of them suck equally! I just love my Amiga (as so many of us do), so BUILD IT and I will come!
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Regards,
AmigaEd
