Takers - One Woman's Opinion of the Amiga Mini

[smerf]

Hi,

[I have always loved the Amiga and appreciated it for what it really is]

Back in 1985 it was a very innovative computer, compared to other computers out at that time, but compared to today's computers and high technology the whole Amiga can be put in the base of a joystick, but also can still be hooked up to a TV.

[Since CommodoreUSA had nothing Amiga related for sale I have ignored their posts so far]

by todays standards "Just what exactly is Amiga related?"  an old archaic computer that is a hobby computer, nothing more, nothing less. A collectors computer to keep all us old farts remembering our days of yesteryear.

[This all changed recently when CommodoreUSA started selling the Amiga Mini, something that has no relation to any Amiga I have ever purchased and loved. I don't understand CPU's, GPU's and other computer gibberish but I know and love the artistic tool called Amiga that I have used since 1985 and this is not it. ]

Well we can really tell that you really don't keep up with modern times. Today's artistic tools on Linux, Windows PC's and UGH!! rotten apple core MACs can do about 1000% more than the Amiga with its cartoonish drawings. (Sorry but that is what it really is).

[Where is the Amiga operating system?]

The Amiga operating system is in Uncle Bill's hands, whether we like it or not. He bought the patent rights and owns them as of yet as far as I know. I can't really recall any official word of him selling them, although he did sell out some licenseing rights.

[CommodoreUSA They are Takers]

Golly gee whiz, really, maybe like MorphOS, Aros, minimig, Amiga X1000, and Natami,  we can call all of them takers, or we can call them developers trying to give the Amiga a new start somewhere.

[I don't live in a vacuum]

No, you sure don't live in a vacuum, you live in something worse, just like all the other people here on Amiga.org, you live in the past, you don't want to see it go away, you don't want to advance a go with the future, where the programs are a little harder to use because they do so much more.

Read those last couple of words, where the programs are a little harder to use because they do so much more, back in 1985 didn't we hear those same words from a great person named Jay Miner, that the Amiga computer was the best because it's programs have the capability of doing so much more. If Jay was alive and  inventing today I would hate to see what he would of made today. What processor would he have used? What Graphics chip, oh so outdated, How about card would he have used? Would he have chose the new Intel, or the Octacore AMD?

Yeah, the Amiga was a great computer, it surpassed every other computer made, but that was back in 1985, it is now 2012, will we see a new Amiga way better than what was?  or will we see the end of the world as supposedly said by the Mayan calander.

It really doesn't matter for the people at Amiga.org, they refuse to accept a new way of life anyway.

smerf

Owned a CPM machine before 1985, owned a 8086 machine before 1985, owned a C64 machine before 1985, owned a C128D machine before 1985, owned an Amiga after the  C128D machine in 1985. Still own a bunch of Amiga's in 2012.

but

I use a PC with Linux, WindowsXP, Windows, Vista, and Windows 7.  One runs EUAE, the rest run Cloanto's Amiga Forever.

I believe in giving my old silicon a rest, and turn on the old girl when I want to show the younger generation what an Amgia did. It impresses a lot of them, especially when they learn that the machine is older than them.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@commodorejohn,

Gosh, those are the nicest words you have ever said to me. What am I like in real life, just an old fart waiting for someone to redevelope the Amiga and bring it back. The only computer I won't use is an apple product. I hate apple back from the old days, you know they where probably one of the reasons the Amiga failed. The biggest reason though was the Commodore leadership, not knowing what they wanted or where doing(sort of hangs around in the commodore circles, doesn't it commodorejohn), commodore just couldn't decide what direction to go, they invested their money into the PC10, PC20 and then the Amiga 500 and Amiga 2000, these moves really confused most Amiga people back in the old days.

The Amiga 1000 was supposed to be the flagship of the new Amiga line, yet not even two years since coming out, they were abandoning the Amiga 1000 for the 500 and 2000

This caused a lot of the people out there to look at other computers, and one of the competitors apple took a lot away from the Amiga line, not saying this was bad because Commodore wasn't ready for the influx of sales, and we just couldn't get enough Amiga's out there to sell.

By the way calling me a twit is sort of mild, because I am a real a$$hole,

smerf

[smerf]

Back it up big mouth! You say something like that I need to see proof. So do it, show me that CUSA have actually got a "community" that is at least 10 times the size of existing AmigaOS, AROS, and MOS user base. I'm getting real sick of people using made up figures to back up wild opinion that they put forward as fact. If your going to say something like that then let's see the numbers.

Hi,

@Tripitaka,

Don't go getting your panties in a tightwad, does it really, really matter. Yes we are all sad about what happened to Amiga, but we have to look at things with a realistic view. The sad truth is, that maybe back in 1992 we could of had the Amiga pulled out, but today with everything modern day computers can do, there is hardly any new innovation to bring out. I mean my gosh, my son just bought a 3D monitor with a couple of 3D games, the games just jump out at you, and yes the PC world is now going 3D gaming, with sound so realistic that I can hear the noisy guy trying to sneak up behind me trying to cut my throat. I turn and look and get ready to fight, and the 3D knife that swings at me makes me want to jumpback in fear, it is that realistic. So tell me exactly what you want from the new Amiga. I mean for gosh sakes I just altered my dogs head with a pancake on it in about 5 minutes, using Linux open source paint programs. The Amiga at one time was the leader in high tech computers, how long do you think it will take MorphOS, AROS, Natami, etc. to get up to where the Amiga was, then think "How long will it take to catch up to where Linux is at today. We aren't even talking about Windows with it's professional software or Macs with its professional software.

So just maybe CUSA's Linux/Amiga pack isn't really that bad, it gives you a pretty up to date Linux software package with the ability to use Amiga software.

I won't buy one basically because I am computer literate in about several systems, old and new, and my computers have the same thing CUSA is doing and you know the average Joe out there who dropped Amiga and C64 years ago just might buy it for the memories of back then, but wouldn't buy a new Amgia today because of his doubt about where it will go and who is supporting it.

smerf

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[smerf]

hi,

@Iggy,

[But Mint Linux is not an Amiga operating system]

I agree it is not an Amiga OS, but Amiga OS was an off shoot of Unix, and Linux is also an off shoot of Unix.

So they are all related and are as one.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@haywirepc,

I agree with you, PPC IS DEAD, even rotten core Mac computing company came down to that decision.

What you have to remember is that their are some people on Amiga.org that aren't exactly high tech. If it was up to them the 6502 or the Z80 would still be running their computers.

but

I agree with you, and I don't care how bad they flame me. If they would have gone either AMD or Intel back in 95 we wouldn't have this problem today.

Quit playing around with old junk arcahiac soon to be obsolete CPU's, just develope an operating system for the average PC.  That is why I am believing in AROS rather than MorphOS.

smerf

[smerf]

Hi,

@commodorejohn,

just imagine a PC turning on and not booting into windows but actually booting into the Amiga updated OS. Imagine being able to surf the net with this system, play up to date 3D modern games, with graphics and sound that are real like, and yet this system still has the functionallity of the Amiga utitlities. Just getting windows off my PC's would be a joy in itself. Never having to read Microsofts EULA, or if i change memory or a hard drive, having to call some body in India to get my computer validated. Never having to worry about how many times did I install this stupid OS, is it five or three uses before I have to buy another license.

Today's modern day computers, are great, it is the stupid Windows OS we have to use that messes them up. Linux does a good job on most software, but they lack the modern day games that have come out. If the game companies programmed games for Linux, Microsoft would probably be through.

smerf