Regarding pricing policy of "OS4.1.7"

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reread my post. im not insisting on using ms as reference. i have mentioned it pretty clearly i think. im comparing the amigalike oses what concerns return/investments vs progress&features and the result of this comparison is i think pretty clear.

what i also i consider a very important pont is transparency. i want to know what im investing into and what i support. additionally i like the possibility to fund particular aspects of development i consider important and interesting to me. this all is given and guaranteed with aros option as default. with os4, if not absolutely impossible it is not wanted. it is like stuffing huge amounts money into a black box. maybe something comes out on the other end, maybe not. the outcome is uncertain and from past experience we know usually very little of whats been advertised up front to secure users interest and investements gets actually achieved. sorry, but i find this business model unsatisfactory and not trustworthy.

Well, Im no developer, but Ive seen comments about problems taking longer than expected which affects the features developed within x amount of time=missing expected deadlines.
As far as "throwing huge money into a black box"; huge money is debatable, but its all relative.

Imho you have to a certain extent leave sanity at the door when joining a small community like this, with all platforms. I dont think im far off the mark if a outsider came in and watched our discussions and he thought we where arguing about "Who are the LEAST insane".
If you want to impose the money vs performance vs timespent ratio too closely on ANY of our platforms, then it makes no sense to do anything but use Linux, Windows or IOS.
Windows; plug and play for pretty much every hardware option out there, why look futher?
And for the developers its complete insanity to spend so much time and effort for so little gratitude generally displayed.

I think the answer is; people enjoy the challenge, the fact that its different (better suited to your needs) or nostalgica. For some its a pure hobby, while some tryin to make a living out of it. But flagging common sense regarding AOS, AROS or MorphOS is frankly silly
(Please take that in the most friendly manner you can, cause Im still upgrading my A1200).

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as mentioned countless times there are many repeated examples of what has been advertised, reported close to release, then the public left with no update on the subject or further months and years till eventually someonle mentions it and then it is again being reported as close to release. what if not that should be called "vaporware"? the list is long and includes many features that are available on alternative and less extensively founded platforms, just to name gallium, warp3d, smp, particular device drivers, browsers and other productivity software..

i think that most would agree that paying multiple thousand just for the hardware to run the system is already huge meoney. then paying te os. paying the neccessary device drivers it does not include. buying all sorts of merchandise and eye candy and then contributiung to the bounties and supporting the developers may resule in even more money.

no. you dont. i consider myself reasonable and have never invested in anything amiga i would call insane with one single exception, when i bought a system along with a ppc accelerator. everything else was rather a good value for money. even the relaively pricey deneb card. i have used all that in my work and i i continue to enjoy it till now, which i wouldnt if i was pressed to throw in money i need otherwise. im certain, many feel alike.

nothing wrong with displaying gratitude. but are the aros developers worth less gratitude? i dont understand why what applies to few does not apply to others.

YOU consider yourself reasonable (and im sure you are), but since everything in these threads are relative to this and that with regards to performance and cost, for a outsider of this "community", you scale might be a bit off.

And just cause person A doesnt want a monetary return for his effort, doesnt stop person B to feel/be eintitled do so. Its Kinda like in the airline industry; tons of aspiring pilots running down the Airlines doors PAYING for simulator training and checks, putting it into a underbidding of working condictions. Recognisable pattern and users have the goal of "free tickets".
The comparison is a stretch, but I sure see similarities.

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"unfavorable reaction of the public"

Seems like the reaction is all over the scale, from positive to negative.

All depending on what realistic expectations you had. How you read into articles and presentations depends on your mindset when you read/hear it.

But that is hardly a suprise. What looks like "damage control" to some, is "pragmatic move" to others.

And the list is long.

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The fact that there is one? You should keep in mind that Trevor makes these motherboards solely to run AmigaOS 4 on them. It's not some sideline business of his: it's literary the sole reason he does it. It's not cost effective for sure, but hell, even I understand that that kind of love got to count for something!

Pretty much what Yasu said. Wether or not its "cost effective" or the "natural choice" is a moot point. The path has been set, and I decide to take the positives instead of nagging about something I have absolutly NO influence on.

That doesnt mean Im overly positive per see; giving constructive critizism about things that we can affect; like software development, bug reporting, features lacking or just plain broken; the list is rather long in that regard. I rather focus the time I spend on these forums to be just a little bit contructive.

Adding negativity to something I cant control Is just silly.