How to use a newer 68040.library on a BPPC?

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Piru wrote:
Either that or there are some serious issues with BPPC 040 without the 68040.library to set up the caches, mmu tables etc.

Interesting, I just got a BPPC 040 and I've found that it's most stable with no 040 libraries at all. With the built in 040 library, I get errors from C:Version, C:list and C:mount in my startup-sequence. Usually #80000004, #8000000A or #8000000B. Strangely they only do it once, so one boot for Version, reboot and then Mount and then another reboot and List, another reboot and then they are fine.:-?   Also Wordworth 2 AGA, once loaded, only its menus work, the rest just does nothing. With no libs at all (BPPCFix) it just works.

I mainly want it for fiddling arround with programming an 040 and PPC at the system level, just for fun. I've got a Blizzard 1260 on it's say so I'll use that or my 1230IV for AmigaOS (KS 3.0 and WB 3.0).

BTW, what is the difference between the phase 5 and the commodore 68040 libraries, what do they have to do differenty to work? How is the BPPC's 040 different to the A4000/040 or a standard 040 accelerator card?

 

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@Piru:

I see, is there anywhere I can find out where the extra parts of the BPPC cards are mapped into the address space?

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I'll look at Enforcer, that has one. I wonder if there are any for 68030 and 68851 systems, I'll have a look.

The MuTools look good as well.

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@humppa:

Because it doesn't make any difference.

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Beginning to think that the BPPC 68040 version of the card is a bit of a nightmare when it comes to libraries.

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@doctorq:
Because I have nothing but troubles with OS3.0. Is OS3.0 too old for this kind of thing?

What 68040.library do you use?

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Framiga wrote:
not sure to have understood but... do a

version 68040.library full

The latest 68040 available is 46.13. (which a don't think its already in the latest FlashRomUpdate)

version 46.7, that is in the flash of the card.

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doctorq wrote:
@sgr86

I have flashed both cards with a flash update from year 2000. Installed the v46.7 68040 libraries in libs: as well, and all is running perfectly.

I get

C:version Program Error #8000000A -> reboot

Sometimes I cam also get either #80000004/A/B from the startup sequence as well from list and mount.

Wordworth 2 AGA, only the menus work.

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Framiga wrote:
Have you tryed to install in Libs: ALL the 680x0 set posted above? (the.new, .old and the little stub 040)

yes

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doctorq wrote:
@sgr86

Well, many will most likely claim that it's not needed to install any additional libraries for using a BPPC, but I have never been able to get anything stable out of a computer with a BPPC (both 040 and 060) without installing the software libraries as well.

Install the libraries, and the problems you are describing will disappear.

I see

Well, I've tried BPPCfix but it's unstable and unpredictable. Because of that I never got arround to trying BPPCFixFix to actually load the libraries.

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doctorq wrote:
You don't need to install BPPCFix to get a stable system. The only thing I use BPPCFix for is to remove the ppc.library, so I don't get a WarpUP disable requestor every time Workbench loads.

So how do you override the 68040.library on the card?

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itix wrote:
@doctorq

For me BPPCFix stopped working at some point. Or rather, it removed ppc.library but my BVision was gone as well. In the end I decided to settle with WarpUp requester on every boot.

Well I'm going to settle for my Blizzard 1260 when it comes in a couple of days. I only need this BPPC card for fiddling about with programming 040s and PPCs eventually so the libraries won't be needed.

@doctorq

I will try this card once more with the SIMM from my 1230IV, it could be a RAM problem I suppose.

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doctorq wrote:
@sgr86

Fair enough, if you can live without a graphics card :-) Just remember to install the libraries for the Blizzard 1260 when you get it.

I've only ever had AGA anyway. I have PCs for anything better.

The libraries are already installed, ready to go.

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Success, it seemed to be a borked workbench installation.

I've installed the phase5 libraries for both the 040 and 060 (I've now got my Blizzard 1260). The BPPC uses it's built in libs though.

All is stable, though the 060 is still only detected as a 68040+68882.

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Piru wrote:

the 060 is still only detected as a 68040+68882.

Blame the old application (showconfig I guess).

Sysinfo as well