Ronald Reagan

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Alzheimer is not an easy condition to live with. and i'm talking about people in Nancy's position.
my brothers' mother-in-law had it and died some years ago.

and his father-in-law had a hard time of it. what a brave man.

and bush doesn't believe in stem-cell research..... :admonish:

yeah, well, it's easy for him to say. he has no mind to lose.

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QuikSanz wrote:
@ cecilia,

1) Bush does not approve of federal funding for this. This is not the same as making it illegal.

2) Quote "yeah, well, it's easy for him to say. he has no mind to lose.

I am happy to see that you follow the left agenda of Tolerance.

Chris

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/040605/480/ny11306051311
reagan is dead.

and I'm intolerant of morons. sorry if that makes you upset.
but bush is into his religious agenda and thinks his invisible friend told him to be against stem cell research. no one will ever call bush "The Great Communicator"

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121883,00.html

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The US needs another Ronnie

nah, america needs another George Washington!

at least ronnie could talk and write in coherent sentences. something that can't be said of the monkey in the white house, now!
 :-(


Associate yourself with men of good quality if you esteem your own reputation for 'tis better to be alone than in bad company.
George Washington

The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion.
George Washington (1732 - 1799)

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how interesting that some see the penultimate of being american as having a gun.

strange, i see it as

getting an education - as much as your intellect can handle - dispite the sex of your body.

chosing your career no matter the sex of your body.

not being forced to marry or have children.

speaking your mind without fear of gov squelching you.

going anywhere you wish, and no one can stop you.

reading any book, listening to any music/radio show, any film, etc, etc.


Government is not reason, it is not eloquence, it is force; like fire, a troublesome servant and a fearful master. Never for a moment should it be left to irresponsible action.
George Washington (1732 - 1799)

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I see all those things... in addition to being able to have a gun

maybe......it's just odd that having a gun is not only the FIRST thing mentioned, but the ONLY!

anyway, i just came across this statement by Ron Reagan Jr.

http://democrats.com/view.cfm?id=13544

some comments:

Reagan took a swipe at Bush during the 2000 GOP convention in Philadelphia, which featured a tribute to his father, telling the Washington Post's Lloyd Grove, "The big elephant sitting in the corner is that George W. Bush is simply unqualified for the job... What's his accomplishment? That he's no longer an obnoxious drunk?"

 :lol:

"My father had decades of experience in public life. He was president of his union, he campaigned for presidential candidates, he served two terms as governor of California -- and that was not a ceremonial office as it is in Texas. And he had already run for president, against Ford in '76, nearly unseating the sitting president in his own party. He knew where he was coming from, he had spent years thinking and speaking about his views. He didn't have to ask Dick Cheney what he thought.

Reagan says his family feels particularly alienated from the Republican Party over its opposition to embryonic stem cell research, which could have significant benefit for Alzheimer patients like his father. "Now ignorance is one thing, ignorance can be cured. But many of the Republican leaders opposing this research know better, people like [Senate Majority Leader] Bill Frist, who's a doctor, for God's sake. People like him are blocking it to pander to the 20 percent of their base who are mouth-breathers. And that's unconscionable -- there are lives at stake here. Stem cell research can revolutionize medicine, more than anything since antibiotics."

"And they told us, 'Don't worry about W. not knowing anything, good old Dick Cheney will be his minder.' Dick Cheney? And this was going to be compassionate conservatism? Dick Cheney is to the right of Genghis Khan, he wants to drill in your backyard, he wants to deny black people their rights --it was all there in his voting record for us to see. What were we, rubes?"

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I found alot of cool quotes here

"This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!" - John Adams

(I LOVE this one)
"The day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin, will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter." -- Thomas Jefferson (letter to J. Adams April 11,1823)

James Madison, fourth president and father of the Constitution, was not religious in any conventional sense. "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."

the Separation of Church and State

"And I have no doubt that every new example will succeed, as every past one has done, in shewing that religion & Govt will both exist in greater purity, the less they are mixed together." - James Madison in a letter to Edward Livingston, 10 July 1822

http://earlyamerica.com/review/summer97/secular.html

the "Founding Fathers" seemed to understand that if your country didn't actively support one religion over another, maybe one's neighbors wouldn't feel threatened.

http://www.wallbuilders.com/resources/search/detail.php?ResourceID=5

" Eaton's official correspondence during his service confirms that the conflict was a Muslim war against a Christian America.

For example, when writing to Secretary of State Timothy Pickering, Eaton apprised him of why the Muslims would be such dedicated foes:


Taught by revelation that war with the Christians will guarantee the salvation of their souls, and finding so great secular advantages in the observance of this religious duty [the secular advantage of keeping captured cargoes], their [the Muslims?] inducements to desperate fighting are very powerful."

So they made a treaty that said, hey, we aren't a radbid christian country, we don't hate you! lay off!

If only Bush had as much sense. but that's asking too much i guess.  :-(

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Speelgoedmannetje wrote:
Can we quit the Reagan propaganda right NOW?

actually, I'd like to start (or re-start) an appreciation of the greatest president america had - George Washingtom.

People actually LOVED him. I think those of us alive (some barely) now can't quite understand how much he was loved.
and what made it easy was the indisputibale fact that he had NO interest in being worshipped.
they wanted to make him KING, and he said, no thanks.
after doing his political DUTY, he only wanted to live quietly on his farm.
he helped create this country. and was humble about it.
it's people like that, that really deserve respect.

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