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Ok, I used to use my A600GS a lot, often just for playing some A500/A1200 games from ADF (sometimes WHDLoad) but there are games that are not very demanding BUT will not run smooth on the A600GS and so I´ve put it away some time ago. But let me explain ...

Two examples :

The Lost Pixel : https://amiga-factory.itch.io/projectlp
Casltevania AGA : https://danteretrodev.itch.io/akumajou-dracula-aga

Both have slowdowns, The Lost Pixel got stuttering music (like hell) even in the menu and the game is unplayable slow ...

So I gave both games a try on my Pi400 with Amiberry 5.7.3 (that´s thee closest I get to the Version 5.7.5 on the A600GS) and hey, the same Slow Downs. So I got down the rabbit hole and downloaded older versions and with Amiberry 5.6.7 everything is running smooooooooth with a bog standard A1200 default config.

So there has to be something gone wrong after 5.6.7 that makes some games unplayable, maybe that´s something only midwan can fix or something can be done by AmigaKit, just wanted to point out and I really would love to get this fixed so I can use my A600GS more often ...
« Last Edit: March 13, 2025, 09:51:44 AM by SkulleateR »
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2025, 02:03:49 PM »
The latest version of Amiberry-Lite, which you should be using on an RPI4, is 5.8.6: https://github.com/BlitterStudio/amiberry-lite/releases/tag/v5.8.6

Testing with that version, on the latest RPI-OS and an RPI4 here, I cannot recreate any issue with the above titles. They both run full-speed.

Yes, I can use higher versions on my Pi, that´s ok ... the point is I cannot myself update the version on my A600GS and there ARE slowdowns ;)
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2025, 02:19:23 PM »
@SkulleateR

@broadblues is currently merging to the latest version- you should get an update soon.  Hopefully this will redress these issues.

Looking forward to it, thanks for the info ...
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2025, 06:06:18 PM »
Sure, I only mentioned that because you specifically referred to your PI400 test there, and that caught my attention.
If you test the latest version on your Pi400, does it work full speed?

Sorry for the late answer, yes it does run full speed :)
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2025, 04:41:53 PM »
Latest Update on A600GS (Amiberry 5.8.7) shows the same issues as before, Sound distortion and slow gameplay compared to a real Amiga :(
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2025, 03:15:00 PM »
JIT hast always been an issue with old Games, even in WinUAE ...

I don't think it's possible to work around it, that's why you can turn it off  ;)
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2025, 07:30:42 PM »
Did you try saving your score the Hall of Fame after a mission on Dune? I think the error is when it's trying to do a write (at a guess anyway).

Saving won´t work with the built in JST tool for whdload, see https://forum.amiga.org/index.php?topic=77120.msg863062#msg863062

Your only option would be a new setup Workbench with real WHDLoad in it and play those games there ...
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2025, 10:50:36 PM »
Is there a way to enable different custom= WHDLoad options?

Sure, just open the Tooltype and set them ... like CUSTOM1=1, save and restart, that's it  :)
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #8 on: July 01, 2025, 09:15:02 PM »
Black screen also for me with Crystal Kingdom Dizzy. Maybe @SkulleateR can have a go, he seems to have more luck with whdload files in the menu.

Try Crystal Kingdom Dizzy V1.0 ... that works fine here ! If you want to use the V2.0a Slave you can do this by using the real WHDLoad (instead of JST) on AmiBench and start the game there ;)

JST (the WHDLoad replacement for the A600GS) cannot handle the new slave file (and the file structure) sadly !
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #9 on: July 01, 2025, 09:58:45 PM »
Indiana Jones And The Fate Of Atlantis (adventure) - says out of memory then crashes (v2.3_0851)

Same problem, JST can't handle that ... using real WHDLoad on AmiBench (or other custom WB setup) will work ...

I hope we will get an updated JST sometime soon, else all newer WHDLoad Installs won't be usable on A600GS/A1200NG, at least not from main menu as it would be intended  :(
 

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Re: Stuttering / Slow Downs / Games that are not playable on A600GS
« Reply #10 on: July 02, 2025, 11:23:09 AM »
Ok, so apparently JST can handle it (tested on FS-UAE and Real A1200), so there must be an other issue regarding those error messages ! If you open AmiBench and start for example Indiana Jones you can see it opens the DATA files and just close them right away freeing the used resources and then it quits out ...