Statement From Bill McEwen on Thendic-Amiga

[KennyR]

Tse, you'd think a webmaster would know how to use an open proxy...

[KennyR]

I didn't mean you, Kees, I meant HMetal. I assume you were able to tell Bucket was him because of his IP. So he's not exactly l33t despite being a webmaster. ;-)

[KennyR]

MorphOS is MorphOS, Genesi = Genesi, I can't recognize any Amiga in that apart from being API COMPATIBLE. Like WINE is API compatible to Windows.

Oh please, not that old one again! It doesn't even make sense, considering that the "real Amiga" is a TeronCX with a dongle! Ever heard the phrase, "People in glass houses shouldn't throw stones?"

Wayne and Redrumloa have become puppets of Genesi.

That's right, and so are the Stonemasons and the US and European governments. And the IT sector. And the market controllers. In fact, everyone's against you. The fact that your niche is shrinking has nothing to do with its fanaticism, it's because everyone's out to get you. Because you are the righteous.

:roll:

[KennyR]

Amiga.org? this site is the most biased 100% pro Genesi site ever to grace the Amiga scene, with sites like that it shows what sort of measures some wacky people will go to protect/praise a company to the death.

Laughable hypocracy.

Look, the Amiga community has changed, not AO. People want to use MorphOS, want to use emulators and amiga-like solutions. They've waited too long on the On Schedule and Rockin' crowd and they're sick of it. They don't want to pay enormous fees for hardware, they don't want to wait ages for an OS. They've moved on. But they still want to investigate other solutions. Get over it already.

So if your going to be staying on this site then do it but don`t make yourself sound even worse by going to a worse site unless of course you get a stiffy for Genesi, which you clearly do so this place will suit you and the rest of the zombies.

More silly hypocracy.

For those who can't change and get angry because they we won't bow down and worship their company of choice, just bugger off. We'll be better off without you all, honestly. This goes for all sides. When will such people get over the fact that others have their own choices to make, and when they choose a company that's actually producing hardware and software, aren't some kind of puppets just because they don't choose AInc?

[KennyR]

I understand this view, Slimjim, and so my rant was aimed at all trolls, including those that constantly rant at and belittle A1/OS4 supporters for the simple crime of making a choice. It cuts all ways. There is a world of a difference between a site not reporting some side's news because there is so little to report, and not reporting them because it is biased. I know which one of these two AO is, and I know what one AW is.

[KennyR]

kennyr:and you state that you are an amiga'n ?

Yes I do, but not your kind of Amigan, it seems.

thats hypocracy , if it was about cheap #### every one would have been on amithlon ages ago

And? With all the users, community, developers and stuff it did attract and would have attracted, how would it have been bad? Sure, I wouldn't have wanted to use a PC, but who the hell am I to dictate what other users want? I did actually critisice Amithlon strongly in the past, but I regret it now. I really thought that it was a danger to getting the Amiga back on its feet. But it turned out that my efforts were being counter-productive and only making me a troll. Amithlon was never a danger; it was only a niche, just like MOS, just like OS4, just like AROS. A choice among many. Much of the software written on Amithlon could have been used on OS4 and MOS. Some of it still is.

everyone knew amithlon was a dead end from the start , with pegasos it aint that obvious but a hunch woul be genesi's first opening comments "WE DONT WANT THE AMIGA bla bla bla" or did you forget that bit? , you are really bullshitting yerself when posting such posts dood.

Maybe they don't want the dirt that spattered on the Amiga name after chronic inaction, or the scum that's stuck to it while skimming through the gutters for all those years. But to be serious, Genesi are just a business. They do business. Taking personal offence at certain loudmouths in it/supporting it isn't really going to help. Anyway, I certainly don't support Genesi or bbrv in this recent statement. I only came into this thread to defend AO and its moderators against people blaming it and them for their own failings, and to vent some at the "you're not with us, you suck!!1111" crowd.

anyway to all who thinks AmigaDE would be good on pegasos bla bla , well ya missed one crucial bit in this and thats the most important one.

AMIGA INC made it , they are entitled to do what they want , no one can copy they're idea or sell it without the creators approval , sure they signed something for smartbox , we dont know what they signed did we? , and for all i know DE on pegasos wouldnt grace the moneybin at AmigaInc anyway... no matter what.

You seem to be mistaking me for someone else, lempkee. I've never made any statement about the DE on Pegasos or any of that silly nonsense brewing now, and I'm probably not going to.

[KennyR]

Sorry lempkee, it must have been one of those cases where the eye catches a word and it goes into the mind. I've corrected my mistake, apologies to both of you. It's quite funny that the words before it were "you must be mistaking me with someone else..." ;-)

[KennyR]

Walkernyranger wrote:

If the community has changed then why do they still frequent a site for AMIGA users? As an Amiga user I often get annoyed with all MOS talk on this site. Not that it can't be mentioned, but it has become overwhelming.

I can understand your irritation, having felt it myself. But what you're seeing now is a flowering of MOS when OS4 is still a bud. Next year it could all be different, with OS4 projects hogging the news. Last year it was Amithlon. It's just the way things go. We all try to keep to people who share our interests, but sometimes we go too far and the only interest left is criticizing all perceived threats to one's own solution, and getting extremely defensive and bitter against any attacks, no matter how mild. My advice is to do what I did - just let it go. Let people do what they want. If their interests are not your interests, well fine, move on to another article. There's no need to take it personally, since everyone has a bad day when that happens.

It is great that some people here have a new computer or even new jobs. But why do we have to keep hearing about them? This is (or was) an Amiga site, is it too much to expect it to be Amiga oriented?

The problem is that "Amiga" is no longer a solid term. We have people putting the label on PPC motherboards, users calling emulators Amigas, and users calling Pegasos Amigas. Only one is official, of course; but since when did officiality tell people what to call things and what not? We live in a free society. And there are those who won't accept anything but the original Commodore Amiga machines. Isn't diversity a good thing?

Wayne quite clearly stated that AO would support all of these alteratives, and would allow each to be hosted. And I believe he was right in doing so.

So until the powers that be here change the name and focus of this site, maybe people who no longer are interested in the Amiga should "bugger off"!

There isn't a person who comes to this site who isn't interested in the Amiga, but their reasons are not always the same. It's a free site, why would you want to limit everyone to seeing things your way? There are still lots of articles for Amiga/AOS4 users. Not much news; this is a pity, but we they can't make it up, if its not there then it's not there. I don't believe there is any focus. Others may feel differently.