Elbox's Spider II and Amithlon - caveat

[bhoggett]

Anyone intending to purchase the new Spider II from Elbox together with the Amithlon drivers should be aware of the experience reported by one customer on the amithlonopen mailing list.

It seems that the driver requires powerpci.library 2.11 or higher, which is not supplied by Elbox or otherwise available for download. The only "official" source for this library is the author, Harald Frank, who is is under no obligation to hand it out.

You have been warned. If you are planning to purchase this product be prepared for an adventure before you can get it to work.

(It would be nice if hardware manufacturers targetting a certain platform would make sure they supply all the software required to make their product work, but I guess that's asking too much.)

[bhoggett]

Your writing is nonsense.

Name one thing I wrote which wasn't a fact at the time of writing.

It is clear that Elbox does not include those programs, which are included in the Amithlon package or in Amithlon updates.

But they are NOT INCLUDED with the Amithlon package or the updates, and until yesterday they weren't available for download from anywhere on the net. Do your research before you spout off any more rubbish.

The only thing causing my reservations is the way that guy from Poseidon treats his clients.

So you say he "switched off" your keys? How exactly did he do that?

The only way for him to have done anything like you suggest is to block your keys from working with Poseidon updates. If he did that, he should have the right to reply to your accusations/

(There are valid reasons for blocking keys - such as their supply with prated versions of the software)

[bhoggett]

@amigabill

The Spider is at the time of writing the only USB solution for Amithlon users. There are rumours of other drivers being developed to use the USB port unually built into the motherboards, but that's not available yet.

I was under the impression that Amithlon made special Amiga drivers for a particular USB/gfx/sound/etc. card irelevant...

Not quite. The graphics drivers are wrapped around the Linux framebuffer drivers, but that's about it for Amithlon. Umilator also had sound and networking wrapped around Linux drivers. The idea of writing a USB wrapper around the Linux drivers was considered (which caused Lord Voldemort to harass Chris Hodges for considering it) but it was never implemented.

[bhoggett]

@tjaoz

All the files, which are parts of the Amithlon package (including powerpci.library) should be delivered by the Amithlon supplier. Is it not obvious for you?

Are you utterly DENSE, as well as misinformed?

The powerpci.library 2.11 is NOT part of the Amithlon package, not is it part of the updates. When Elbox released the Amithlon divers for the Spider, this library was not available for anywhere on the net.

You're full of lies and BS. I remember you now, Mr Rat. You're the one posting fabricated accusations against anyone whoever criticises Elbox in any way, and you support the inclusion of hostile virii in Elbox' commercial software.

[bhoggett]

@tjaoz

Why such impertinence?

Listen, buster, you accused me of writing rubbish when I suggested that any drivers should come will all needed libraries that they need which are not available as part of the standard platform distribution they are targetting. You accused me. Don't come with the impertinence accusations with me.

It seems that you have problems with understanding the sentence to which you are responding. Read it once again, and hope you will understand it: 'All the files, which are parts of the Amithlon package (including powerpci.library) should be delivered by the Amithlon supplier. Is it not obvious for you?'

No, you were avoiding the issue, because the specific version is crucial here.

Powerpci.library was always part of the Amithlon package.

Not v2.11. Nor was that version supplied with any of the updates.

The current version of this library is available at http://www.vmc.de/amithlon/ger_ami_soft.html

It wasn't there when I posted my original message, and it wasn't there on April 1st when Elbox announced the Amithlon drivers.

If you have no reasonable arguments, you will write such offensive sentences.

When people are as offensive as you are, they get treated in kind. No part of my original message was inaccurate at the time of writing, so take your vitriol elsewhere.

When Elbox released their driver the library it required was not publically available anywhere. End of story.