We need an iBrowse replacement for 68k!!!

[Dandy]

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Prerequisites: AISS and a PNG DataType.
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Hmmm - following the AISS-link I found a download-link for aiss419.lha.
Unfortunately the site does not tell anything about the requirements.
Is aiss419.lha the latest version for OS 3.x?
Or is it for AmigaOS 4.x?

Just in case the aiss419.lha archive is for OS 4.x:
I already have the AISS 2.0 archive - would that be sufficiant for Netsurf?

[Dandy]

I've fixed a lot of bad crashing on startup and other problems, to the point where NetSurf now works - mostly - on an (emulated) AGA machine.

NetSurf post-3.3 ALPHA for AmigaOS 3.5+ (save everything, back up, etc before using!)
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Chris,

I`m a bit confused:
I`ve downloaded both - the version of August 16th and the version you uploaded a few days later. While the version I downloaded first seems to be for OS 3.x, the one I just downloaded seems to be for OS 4.x only.

This is what the ReadMe of the version of August 16th says (archive name: netsurf_os3.lha; download date: August 20th, 2015):

"Short:        CSS capable web browser
Uploader:     arturjarosik@gmail.com  (Artur Jarosik)
Author:       NetSurf contributors (Amiga-68k port by Artur Jarosik)
Type:         comm/www
Version:     3.1
Relpaces:     comm/www/netsurf-m68k.lha
Architecture: m68k-amigaos >= 3.0.0
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 Requirements:
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  * AmigaOS 3.x
  * Picasso / CGX compatible graphic card.
  * 32 MB Ram (64MB for complex sites).
  * 68020+ CPU with FPU, for usable speed 68060 or emulator is required.
  * OpenURL for mailto:.

    Optional:
    --------
    * FFplay in C: for video/audio streaming & youtube playback (see Aminet)
    * Mount TCP: for getvideo (see Assigns file)
 "


And this is what the ReadMe of the version I just downloaded from the same link says (archive name: netsurf_os3.lha; download date: September 2nd, 2015):

"Short:        Fast CSS capable web browser
Uploader:     chris@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk (Chris Young)
Author:       NetSurf contributors (OS4 port by Chris Young)
Type:         comm/www
Version:      3.4
Architecture: ppc-amigaos >= 4.0.0

This is NetSurf 3.4 for AmigaOS 4.
For the latest version, visit http://www.netsurf-browser.org


Can you please advise which version I should try?

I also visited http://www.http://www.netsurf-browser.org/downloads/amiga/ for the latest version, but all I found there was:
" NetSurf 3.2 for AmigaOS (5.9MB) 30 Aug 2014

Requires: AmigaOS 4 "

[Dandy]

Dandy version you downloaded is Arthurs's version, wich uses SDL and Framebuffer frontend. Frambuffer version of Netsurf is meant to be used debuggin and NO GUI systems like a DOS. It has never meant to be used like Arhur does with it. It lacks many essential features, as it doesn't have a GUI.

Chris version of Netsurf is based to Amiga OS4 sources, Chris maintains OS4 version. It has native GUI (Reaction) and all the features wich Netsurf has. (menus, tabs etc.)

I very much doubt that you downloaded Arthurs version from Chris link. Maybe you downloaded it from Aminet?

Well, I downloaded it from the link on Amiga-News.de (http://www.amiga-news.de/de/news/AN-2015-08-00045-DE.html) both times.
cgutjahr told me, that Chris updated the archive 5 days after the news item, the link being the same.

EDIT:
Do you have information regarding the version of AISS (see my first posting #625 today)?

[Dandy]

I saw that and was confused about it, as well.  To a layman, one of the things I struggled with is the lack of documentation on this project.  

I might be tempted to put a sort of documentation together, once I really got Netsurf running on my towered Amiga4000 PPC.

Not to say that Chris isn't doing great work, the browser definitely works on classic systems, but obviously it's not without issues.  It's a big project for just one guy.

Chris does a humdinger of a job!

Anyhow, if you're trying to run this on a classic system you need to download the version from this thread,

O.K. - just did that.
But it seems I'm going round in circles, as the ReadMe of this archive says again:

"Short:        Fast CSS capable web browser
Uploader:     chris@unsatisfactorysoftware.co.uk (Chris Young)
Author:       NetSurf contributors (OS4 port by Chris Young)
Type:         comm/www
Version:      3.4
Architecture: ppc-amigaos >= 4.0.0

This is NetSurf 3.4 for AmigaOS 4.
For the latest version, visit http://www.netsurf-browser.org
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I want the version for OS 3.9 - not the OS 4.x version!

AISS is not required (at least I didn't need to install it,

Hmmm - if AISS is not required - why did Chris write:

Prerequisites: AISS and a PNG DataType.

In his posting #572 Chris even wrote:

Oops, I should have mentioned that. It needs AISS installed, even if the default theme is selected (not sure why, need to check that). http://www.masonicons.de

Well, I have all the WarpDatatypes installed - including a PNG datatype, but I'm not sure about which AISS version to use (see my first posting #625).
Is the linked AISS version (aiss419.lha) for OS 3.x or is it for OS 4.x?

Unfortunately I cannot check its "ReadMe" here from work, as all I get is:

"This Website has been blocked

Information Security Policy 8.1.3.F Acceptable use of assets (a) Data access and resource privileges


Access to this web site (http://www.masonicons.de/) has been blocked because the website category "Uncategorized URLs" is not allowed."

I'm running OS3.9 + BB1-4 + WarpDT's).  

I'm running OS 3.9+BBs1-2/WarpOS 16.1. My TCP/IP stack is MiamiDX.
My hardware is:
A4000 with CyberstormPPC (50/200 mHz, 128 mB); MediatorPCI with Voodoo4, Terratec 512i digital and 10/100 mBit NIC in Zorro III; Deneb USB 2.0 highspeed in Zorro III.

Just unpack the archive, run the installer, it installs to a directory, assign NetSurf: to point that directory, and run it from the icon.  

I certainly will, once I know where to get the latest OS 3.x version (the version linked for download here in this thread seems to be for OS 4.x, at least according to the ReadMe) and once the AISS issue is resolved...

You'll probably want to play around with the config options, there's a a few tips on those buried somewhere in this thread, haha.

LoL
But first let me get the stuff properly installed...

Good luck, post a screenshot when you get it running!  

Will do, but I'm afraid I will need more help to get it running...

[Dandy]

Don't care what readme says, it is OS3.5/9 version. Chris just hasn't changed it to readme.
Current version doesn't require AISS and neither didn't previous version. I just required assign.

Thanks for the quick reply. I'll give it another try tonight.

Worked with TBImages assigned anywhere.

Now you got me!
WTF is "TBImages"

Maybe you could addvertice this to German forums, Chris needs a help. Maybe someone there couold have interest help him.

Yes, of course, I can do that.
Just tell me what requirements those have to meet that want to help/contribute.

Tips

With AGA systems just install an run
With RTG systems open Users/Default/Choices add friend_bitmap:1 to it

Thanks for the tip (but I don't think I will ever use AGA again - my eyes are bad enough now...   )!

[Dandy]

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With older builds it was an issue every time you started the program it would ask for the assign "TBImages:".  I would just assign it where ever, like pointing to the program directory, it didn't seem to make a difference.  In any case, sounds like it's been fixed now so ...

Thanks for the info, mate!

[Dandy]

Ignore AISS, it doesn't need it (I'd edit my previous post but it won't let me).  Ignore the readme, the package is created from the OS4 sources so that's what the readme says it needs.  friend_bitmap probably isn't needed now either, I think I forced that on for RTG in the latest build.

Thanks for clarification, Chris!

The main thing right now is fixing the optimisation bug in GCC.  It optimises away NewObject's taglist which means I can't build with optimisations on, which makes it slower and means there's no Javascript.

Other than that, general optimisation and bug-fixing in C, especially wrt rendering.  I'm happy to slot hand-crafted 68k asm in if somebody wants to write it!

I e-mailed cgutjahr at amiga-news.de and told him what kind of help you need. It`s up to him to decide if I should open a thread for it or if he makes a news item of it. We will see...

[Dandy]

I'm rather puzzled that this has become a news item.  At least it acknowledges the alpha status and the confusion with Artur's fork having the same name.

 
From this you can see how desperately a decent browser for classic AmigaOS is awaited...