Amiga technology and patents ownership ?

[koaftder]

amiga1084 wrote:
Hello All,

I still believe the rumor that Bill Gates/MicroShaft scared
Gateway to stop making,marking new Amiga.Why would you buy
the rights if all you want are the patents.Gateway was &
still is just other PC Clone company what are the patents worth
to them.They wanted to change but good old Billy Boy wouldn't
let them.Thats my opinion and I am sticking to it.Merv

Maybe gateway bought amiga just to get better barganing leverage on microsoft.

[koaftder]

snowman040 wrote:
bloodline, if you're not a lawyer - you should be  :-D


Ok so, in order to get Amiga name (trademarks / brand) and to start developing new Amiga OS/Hardware, company X should:

- buy Amiga name from Amino, or buy Amino?
- licence or buy IP and patents from Gateway

Is this correct ?

What ammount of money can be involved here ? 50-100mil$,... less? more ? Are there any informations related to Amiga Inc. / Amino stock value ?

man, i think you got thoes units off, surely you meant 50-100k

[koaftder]

snowman040 wrote:
@koaftder

Well I did hoped for the worst  :-) remembering Escom buyouts and all, got me thinking pesimistic about the numbers... but hey - less money on IP, brand, bla bla - more on development ...  :-D

I know it seems pretty awful for me to write that... I just dont think the amiga brand carries much value anymore in relation to branding, at least here in the US that is. Very few of my geek friends have heard of it, and almost none of my non geek friends have even heard of the amiga brand.  ( i'm still gonna buy that mousepad wayne, just getting my money back into check (: )

There are a lot of compaq sales, even though theres no compaq anymore, thats because people got branded. My girlfriend wont buy a machine unless it's got Compaq somwhere on it, she associates the brand with quality. Amiga missed that ball because they fell down on the early side of the curve, most people never got a chance to get branded except for us early computer adoptors.

For the amiga brand to carry weight now, they will have to put out something insane, like an optical processor clocked at 10Ghz or a quantum computing based math coprocessor. If a company did that, it wouldnt matter weather they called it amiga or something new now would it, as it would stand on it's own anyway.

If hell froze over, steve jobs would take over Amiga Inc, put out sexy looking machines, ditch the operating system for something better, add lots of eyecandy and spend a billion dollars on amiga branded consumer applications. Then the brand might be worth something, but we know thats not going to happen.

[koaftder]

bloodline wrote:

Flexinoodl wrote:
Damn it's the Steve jobs fan club
Only kidding but lets be honest here, You are talking like only Jobs could resurrect the Amiga which is cobblers.

My point was we would need some one LIKE Steve Jobs, anything less and the Amiga would not have a chance.

I asure you the Amiga brand has nothing of value over my StiffSock brand... Amiga Inc. killed off any value the Amiga still had.

What amiga inc may be trying to do is roll under it's value.  Lets say Amiga is worth 5. A.inc may be trying to make it's value worth less than 0, causing the variable to roll around and end up extremely high with minimal effort. This is a strategy Steve Jobs would never have come up with. Perhaps those steering amiga inc are really geniuses and we are not aware of it yet.

Since amigas are 32 bit, it's value after 0 would be 4294967295. At this value, they could get by selling socks and tshirts for thousands of dollars a piece, and people would consider it a good value.

[koaftder]

tonyvdb wrote:
Slightly off topic but to say that fue people know about the "Amiga Brand" is not very true. When Amiga was selling their A3000(t), 4000(t) 1200 and 600 in the 1990's it outsold the PC almost two to one in the UK only the Mac. sold better. So this tells me that there are alot of Amiga users out there who either have it stored in their atic or are still using it today. I know only a fue people that dont know what an Amiga is and considering that my A4000D is still running today tells me that it is a well made product. I hope that some day Amiga as we all know it will come back to life. (not likely but I would like to see it happen) The Amiga One is a start but is not really an Amiga as we know as there are so many changes to it.

Do you live in the UK? Amiga doesnt seem to have cought on much in the US from what ive seen. I remember it all over the place in Dallas in mid to late 80s. Moved to NC in '90 and never heard or saw amiga in a store ever again.

[koaftder]

All this talk about who would make the ultimate CE0 of amiga inc reminds me of fantasy football. Need to put up a site thats a good mix of fu