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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« on: March 16, 2004, 12:15:31 PM »
This all sounds like monkey-business to me... I did a quick google search for Gar(r)y Hare and KMos, or even Itec. Not a single thing of interest besides the ann.lu, moobunny and a.org postings. I doubt Kmos has paid any more than a days salary for the AmigaOS rights..
When I see the case in a strictly objective point of view, it still looks like prefabrication of evidence. Amiga Inc are baaaad..

My personal opinion, let the flaming begin :lol:
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #1 on: March 16, 2004, 12:26:12 PM »
I seriously doubt AOS was sold nearly a year ago. Probably something they just made up so they have some evidence to bring to court, and to transfer the only true asset out of an, in my opinion, bankruptcy soon-to-come. Is it just a coincidence that the same day they announce that they are returning to the courtroom with new evidence? Why did'nt they present it in the previous case?

Man! I know b***hi*t when I smelll it. To bad they are bringing bad reputation onto the Amiga-community.
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #2 on: March 16, 2004, 12:38:48 PM »
@TMHG

Okey, I don't have any form of law school, so your probably right... And furthermore I the technical english terms used by lawyers is like greek to me,  :lol:

But anyway, you don't have to be more than street-wise to smell what's going on. Looks like their last attempt to stop OS4 for running on Pegasos? I dunno. Cause I can't see what Genesis want's the AmigeDE player, AmigaAnywhere,-call-it-what-you-like, for.

The A.Inc ship is sinking, and their just trying to get the valuables with them...
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #3 on: March 16, 2004, 12:39:50 PM »
@itix

look at my conspiration theory....
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #4 on: March 16, 2004, 12:52:21 PM »
Well, if it's one thing that'll make me never by an AOne or OS4.0, it's this soap-opera. Linux vs. SCO is not complex at all compared to this.. :pissed:
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #5 on: March 16, 2004, 01:02:12 PM »
@TMHG

Well, development is always funny, as someone else stated on this forum, we just need a murder to make a good movie :lol:

But I just can't see why A.Inc. has refused to make OS4 run on Pegasos...more sales=more money in the real world. IMHO it's not much difference between the Pegasos and the AOne, they share the same northbridge, or? AFAIK it's just a matter of having the right firmware on the Pegasos boad. But I'm on thin ice when it comes to Pegasos specs. I thought it was build after "zico"-specifications?
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #6 on: March 16, 2004, 01:45:51 PM »
@restore2003

Well, Amiga inc. are not exactly known to keep their words, are they? I see them as some pre-dot.com crack desperados who are trying to pull their lies as far as possible. Who has ever seen AmigaDE run anything on anything useful? The IP value is in OS4, not much, but some income will be generated when OS4 fianlly starts shipping, so it's pretty obvious what's going on.
Just because a company holds the rights to the Amiga name doesn't make them the holy, good guys. And they obviously aren't either.
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #7 on: March 16, 2004, 02:03:43 PM »
@lempkee

My point is, AmigaDE was supposed to be the "Java" of cellular phones and pda's. It was released, on PocketPC I believe, but it was never a success or money-machine.

The technique of selling out assets/products of a company are often due to two main reasons:
1. Lack of interest or product doesn't fit in current portfolio.
2. The ship is going down, and they want to keep the assets out of the liquidators hands. This could be illegal under certain circumstances.

Make your own opinion.

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But don't get me wrong, I also love the Amiga, but I hate the way faith has gone with the trademark. OS4 is in no doubt an excellent product, but hat shouldn't make A.Inc. the Messias of all amigans.
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #8 on: March 16, 2004, 02:31:38 PM »
@lempkee

No-one said the ship is sinking, it's just my personal "glance-in-the-crytal-orb". To back up this I did a quick search for KMOS, Gar(r)y Hare and ITec on Google, guess what showed up? Nothing but the postings on several forums and the amiga.com site. This leads me to the followibg conclusion:
1. Gar(r)y Hare and Bill Mc. Even have some sort of connection. I'm sure what btw.
2. Amiga Inc. is insolvent, they don't have offices in Snoqualmie anymore, do they? This is even stated by A. inc. themselves in the court documents.
3. Unknown associate with Bill Mc Even, Gar(r)y, starts a company, or already has a company named KMOS and they transfer the AmigaOS IP to that company. If KMOS is a company with funding, how come they don't have ANY references on the net dated previous to march 2004?
4. Wow, wonder what is going on? Bankruptcy next?

Well, I don't think KMOS will make "peace" and give os4 licensing to all interrested. At least that's my opinion after reading the court documents.

I just hope this will end soon, so the community can focus on OS4 and not legal battles. And IMHO Genesis should also be granted the right to run OS4 on their HW, but I'm sure that'll be the nail in the coffin for Eyetech. So it's not easy to choose side in this complex war. Hope you don't mistake me for some MorphOS enthusiast, I am more of a "OS4 on all PPC platforms" enthusiast.
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #9 on: March 16, 2004, 03:04:31 PM »
TMHG is right. That is not an appeal, the court has ruled in Genesis' favor, and Amiga Inc. is _not_ appealing against that.
But Genesis has asked for a specification/addition, in human language, of the courts ruling. This is what A.Inc is responding to. Amiga Inc. seems to have acknowlegded the defeat, but just want's to keep Genesis from grabbing to much.

I have looked through the court documents, and I must say, this is going to be any judge's nightmare 90% of the evidence are withdrawn from public forums...also the contract signed between A.Inc and Genesis really only covers vapor-ware. What a mess.

Is the original written contract between Thendic/Amiga made publically available?
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Re: Why did Amiga Inc announce this?
« Reply #10 on: March 16, 2004, 05:45:06 PM »
@tigger

Yep, I found the contract. And IMHO OS4 should be ported to Pegasos ASAP, but that's another story. I also read most of the documents, including McEwens deposition. He claims to have a counterclaim against TAI for dropping support for a lot of platforms for Intent. Perhaps they have settled out of court and AInc has gotten some cash from there? Dunno, just speculations and crap from me.

Anyway, I paid for OS3.9 the other day, maybe thats their new funding :lol:
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