Why did Amiga Inc announce this?

[lempkee]

morley: i got an PDA here with AMIGADE on it , and 20+ games on it , all amiga.inc's ..

whats your point?


remeber guys , the story bbrv told all was "NEW AMIGA CEO GARY HARE"  , now is he that now? , who told u that if so?

time to give me the stuff i didnt read in the announcements.

amiga ROXX and so does os4!

[Morley]

@lempkee

My point is, AmigaDE was supposed to be the "Java" of cellular phones and pda's. It was released, on PocketPC I believe, but it was never a success or money-machine.

The technique of selling out assets/products of a company are often due to two main reasons:
1. Lack of interest or product doesn't fit in current portfolio.
2. The ship is going down, and they want to keep the assets out of the liquidators hands. This could be illegal under certain circumstances.

Make your own opinion.

-EDIT-

But don't get me wrong, I also love the Amiga, but I hate the way faith has gone with the trademark. OS4 is in no doubt an excellent product, but hat shouldn't make A.Inc. the Messias of all amigans.

[bloodline]

amiga ROXX and so does os4!

That may be so, but what about Amiga Inc.?

[lempkee]

morley: well heh big plans fail all over the planet its not like amiga.inc was the first to do so , they had too little money to make something out of it and now i am sure things will start to happen again but then again i am an amigaos fan and thats my main target.

also who said the ship is sinking?? last i checked kmos have put funds into amiga.inc to get past the lawsuits.

also we all assumed that bbrvs only plan was to sue amiga.inc to stall them and try to make em forget about amigaos and so on so that mos could be more pop.

also that said i never was a big fan of amiga.inc itself, but then again i really dont care as long as os4 and its stuff are beeing developed , but sure i personally think os4 should be with amiga and from my point of view it is still as hyperion have showed more than amiga.inc has shown in over 3 years.

[restore2003]

@Bloodline:

Forget about Amiga Inc!!! They sold the only thing thats worth having, now we should be talking about KMOS  :-)

[bloodline]

also that said i never was a big fan of amiga.inc itself

That's a u-turn and a half!! :-D

[takemehomegrandma]

bloodline wrote:

also that said i never was a big fan of amiga.inc itself

That's a u-turn and a half!! :-D

LOL!  :lol:  :lol:

[bloodline]

restore2003 wrote:
@Bloodline:

Forget about Amiga Inc!!! They sold the only thing thats worth having, now we should be talking about KMOS  :-)

Hey, you are looking at Amiga Inc.'s biggest critic! I'm just finding it really funny how all the Amiga Inc. appologists are jumping ship now that OS4 seems to be nothing to do with them (The best thing that could happen to the OS4 project).

Can't we finally kill Amiga Inc. now?

[lempkee]

bloodline:i doubt i have ever said i like a.inc.

anyway my poiint is..

if the product produced is great do you use it ? or is all of the decsision up to who is leading the company?

i hate windows because its crap , i dont like ms either.

i hate macos but i dont know much about the guys in charge there.

i hate bbrv but mos is quite ok for an clone os.

i hated commodore's top people in the last years of cbm...

[Morley]

@lempkee

No-one said the ship is sinking, it's just my personal "glance-in-the-crytal-orb". To back up this I did a quick search for KMOS, Gar(r)y Hare and ITec on Google, guess what showed up? Nothing but the postings on several forums and the amiga.com site. This leads me to the followibg conclusion:
1. Gar(r)y Hare and Bill Mc. Even have some sort of connection. I'm sure what btw.
2. Amiga Inc. is insolvent, they don't have offices in Snoqualmie anymore, do they? This is even stated by A. inc. themselves in the court documents.
3. Unknown associate with Bill Mc Even, Gar(r)y, starts a company, or already has a company named KMOS and they transfer the AmigaOS IP to that company. If KMOS is a company with funding, how come they don't have ANY references on the net dated previous to march 2004?
4. Wow, wonder what is going on? Bankruptcy next?

Well, I don't think KMOS will make "peace" and give os4 licensing to all interrested. At least that's my opinion after reading the court documents.

I just hope this will end soon, so the community can focus on OS4 and not legal battles. And IMHO Genesis should also be granted the right to run OS4 on their HW, but I'm sure that'll be the nail in the coffin for Eyetech. So it's not easy to choose side in this complex war. Hope you don't mistake me for some MorphOS enthusiast, I am more of a "OS4 on all PPC platforms" enthusiast.

[choochy]

takemehomegrandma wrote:
@ Morley

This is how I understand things:

1. The Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case is closed. Genesi won.

2. After the cased closed, Genesi filed a "motion to modify order", to "refine" some of the wordings in the ruling. Note, this is NOT a new case, the case is still closed.

3. Now some Amiga Inc related people filed a lot of *responses* to that motion. This is not an appeal, the case is still closed and settled in the same way as before.

No one is "returning to court with evidence". The case is closed. Or?

Yes the Court did make a motion, but just a motion the case wasnt closed not till the appeal date lapsed. Amiga had 30days to appeal, which they are doing now.

As you can see the court documents have been execpted by the courts!

[itix]

If KMOS was normal company they would not bother with Amiga Inc after AmigaOS buyout. Hyperion neither because they dont have valid contract with Amiga Inc anymore. Amiga Inc would not promote AmigaOS either if they were not working on it anymore. Why would Amiga Inc renew Club Amiga membership offer if they werent doing AmigaOS any longer? This announcement is old news already (11 months old).

The peace will come again when this issue settles down. In two weeks we know lot more about this.

[bloodline]

lempkee wrote:
bloodline:i doubt i have ever said i like a.inc.

anyway my poiint is..

if the product produced is great do you use it ? or is all of the decsision up to who is leading the company?

i hate windows because its crap , i dont like ms either.

i hate macos but i dont know much about the guys in charge there.

i hate bbrv but mos is quite ok for an clone os.

i hated commodore's top people in the last years of cbm...

Why don't you share with me the pleasure of saying "Amiga inc. is a worthless 2 bit company run by a truck driver and a technopath, who wasted all the Time and Money that could have been spent on AmigaOS"?

I admire your dedication to the Amgia platform, or rather the "Dead Amiga Clasic" platform to use the useless Amiga Inc. term. But I really have to say that WinXP is not as bad as you seem to think :-o I don't like it but my hatered is an illogical prejudice born of my Amiga Past :-)

[takemehomegrandma]

choochy wrote:

takemehomegrandma wrote:
@ Morley

This is how I understand things:

1. The Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case is closed. Genesi won.

2. After the cased closed, Genesi filed a "motion to modify order", to "refine" some of the wordings in the ruling. Note, this is NOT a new case, the case is still closed.

3. Now some Amiga Inc related people filed a lot of *responses* to that motion. This is not an appeal, the case is still closed and settled in the same way as before.

No one is "returning to court with evidence". The case is closed. Or?

Yes the Court did make a motion, but just a motion the case wasnt closed not till the appeal date lapsed. Amiga had 30days to appeal, which they are doing now.

As you can see the court documents have been execpted by the courts!

Where do you see an appeal? I only see this:

RESPONSE filed by Defendant Amiga Inc re 49 MOTION to Modify Order Granting Specific Performance (Shukis, Diana) (Entered: 03/15/2004)

... the documents #52 and forward in the Thendic/Genesi vs. Amiga Inc case, a "Response to motion to modify order" (found in document #49), not an appeal to the final ruling (#48)?

Care to tell me what I am missing, because I only see these people filing some responses to BBRV's letter?

[Morley]

TMHG is right. That is not an appeal, the court has ruled in Genesis' favor, and Amiga Inc. is _not_ appealing against that.
But Genesis has asked for a specification/addition, in human language, of the courts ruling. This is what A.Inc is responding to. Amiga Inc. seems to have acknowlegded the defeat, but just want's to keep Genesis from grabbing to much.

I have looked through the court documents, and I must say, this is going to be any judge's nightmare 90% of the evidence are withdrawn from public forums...also the contract signed between A.Inc and Genesis really only covers vapor-ware. What a mess.

Is the original written contract between Thendic/Amiga made publically available?

[mikeymike]

Suddenly everyone's a lawyer.  Yet again.  Yawn.