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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« on: November 11, 2011, 02:35:07 PM »
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Well if that is true, isnt elbox guilty of this? i mean they are the ones who took a nec card and changed the vendor id to their own.

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They didn't do it for the purpose of circumventing the protection in the driver.
 

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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2011, 02:47:08 PM »
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Yes but they seem to have made it to charge people for overpriced products.


Overpriced products aren't illegal.

Besides, the Spider is the cheapest USB adapter available for the Amiga.

http://shop.elbox.com/cgibin/shop?info=705S20
 

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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2011, 03:13:29 PM »
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This hack on the hardware doesn't circumvent their driver, it complies with it.


Did I say it circumvents their driver? No. I said it circumvents the protection in the driver.
 

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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2011, 10:08:01 PM »
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If that doesn't show their true colors, I don't know what does.


Why? Because they don't like being ripped off?
 

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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2011, 02:59:50 AM »
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They aren't being ripped off. i am just playing their game,except releasing the cards for a price they should cost.They simply don't like getting their own medicine back.


Did you pay for the driver development cost? Do you offer support? Do you handle warranty repairs? Do you have a business with employees to pay?

What do you think the price they should cost is? $20? Should Elbox be operating a charity?

Why do people complain about a $70 markup on the Spider, but have no problem with the Subway selling for $120? Or $200 for the DENEB? How much do you think they cost to make?

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they have ripped amiga users off since the spider was released.
for the record i like the mediator,even if it does not do DMA it does work and is reliable.
Do you forget the years they sold spider cards with no available updated stack?


Nobody was forcing anyone to buy them. If the card didn't work as advertised, then people should return them for a refund.

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The overpriced piece of s*** excuse for a $30 chinese mediator pro tower for a4000 they sold me which cost a fortune


What? Overpriced Amiga hardware? What an outrage!

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and the rip off NEC usb card are a different story. bad business is bad business.Its things like this that drive amiga users away.


Driving developers away doesn't attract users.

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The whole point of the mediator was cheap pci cards was it not?

mech


Feel free to write your own drivers, and charge whatever you want for them or give them away for free.
 

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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2011, 03:13:44 AM »
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Elbox has not been ethically correct since ancient times


And?
 

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Re: NEC usb hack for mediator
« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2011, 03:53:38 AM »
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And so who is ripping off who?


mechy is ripping off Elbox.

Wasn't I clear on this?

Elbox could drown puppies and it wouldn't change that fact.