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Offline BigBenAussie

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Re: Will Amiga ever live again?
« on: March 30, 2004, 10:15:19 PM »
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I can't tell you how many people's eyes light up when I tell them that a new Amiga is coming out.

Of course not knowing its abysmal specs and high price tag helps.

People think, "Super Amiga, that's the ticket".

Its a pity Amiga couldn't have made a super chipset to out perform the consoles and 3d cards of today.

Hey, any possibility of creating a technology that works with multiple 3d Graphic cards? Keep adding them to go faster.

Of course the cost would be exorbitant but some people are willing to pay for the fastest game machine on the block and its easy to upgrade. I am assuming that apart from OS functionality the processor speed doesn't matter as much as the polygon count to a lot of people.
 

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Re: Will Amiga ever live again?
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2004, 10:24:59 AM »
The Deathbed Vigil on the Amiga Forever 6 cd mentions that Medhi Ali(?) screwed everything up by not producing enough of a new model before Christmas. I know it sounds weird, but the Amiga was still a good seller even when Commodore went out of business. Commodore just weren't prepared for the Christmas rush on one or two occasions and this was enough to run them into the ground. Boy, were the laid off employees pissed off at Medhi for ruining the company in a matter of a couple of years!!!
 

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Re: Will Amiga ever live again?
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2004, 10:44:31 AM »
Will Amiga ever live again?

Depends what you mean by live, and based on that definition you may even find that it never died.
(Amiga = the Amiga platform.)

Will Amiga systems be successful?
That depends on how low your expectations are. I look at the new systems as life preservers, enough to keep the community afloat until........until we have a cunning plan.

Will Amiga reach its former heights?
Well, obviously no. You'd need to sell millions apon millions and Eyetech are even fretting over a measly 10 thousand units.

Will Amiga ever have the number of users it once had?
No, of course not. Lucky if you get 1% of old users back and even then out of curiosity.

Will it ever be as powerful as other systems?
No. Eyetech and Genesi will never be able to keep up with even PowerPC chips, and the PowerPC chip will be lucky to even keep up with x86 clones.

Will it ever be a cheaper alternative to other systems?
No. Unless it sits on the shelf for a couple of years.

Then why get one???
Well this all comes down to the Amigan philosophy.
IMHO Amigans consider themselves the underdog. Amigans identify strongly with the prominent computer of their youth sorta like musical taste. Amigans triumphed over the ST and the PC owners in many aspects in the early nineties and considered themselves unique. Amigans identified with the underdog and the success story that was Amiga. Some people think they can do it again, or at least have fun trying. If its a matter of being a mini-me-too, then that's just fine as well. Everything old is new again, and exciting times playing catch up can be had.

That's why I think people use Linux too, they identify with their community and are willing to put up with its shortcomings, while attempting to bridge the gap and beat Goliath. We all know Windows is good enough, but I'll be damned if I knowingly make Bill Gates richer. You can get close to Windows, on a miniscule budget, which says a lot.

Will Amiga ever have a decent browser, a decent Office Suite and decent development tools?
YES!!! Because when left to their own devices and unshackled by corporate considerations Amigans band together to make what seems impossible, possible. It wasn't Amiga that made it possible, IT WAS AMIGANS THAT MADE IT POSSIBLE!!! Its only a matter of time, and a final OS4 release combined with new uA1 hardware may just prove the catalyst.

I think that the only way to get ahead of the pack in terms of hardware, is to jump onto someone else's proprietry hardware, and build a new Amiga based on one of the next gen PowerPC consoles, like Sony's or Nintendo's. In this case the move to PPC was merely step one, ie Amiga ONE. I want Amiga TWO on kickass console hardware(with higher specced options). With a single hardware base we wouldn't be in the gfx and sound support mess we have now. I wish the companies would get out of the hardware game altogether and leverage what is already out there more. I know, x86 is out of the question, almost like conceding defeat for some, but there must be other PPC alternatives. Surely, Eyetech and Genesi can't be the only people making PPC hardware. I don't care if they're just resellers. Let others with the muscle produce the hardware and leverage it.

I think we should just support the current hardware on the A1 TO THE MAX for now and not expend too much effort on supporting everything under the sun, for instance, the uA1s built in sound and graphics, as well as 3d, and that will be fine until we can figure out what to do about producing a killer Amiga TWO in a couple of years. It'll be fun for a while just to see what can be done with the new machines, even if we can't directly hit the hardware.

If you buy a new Amiga, intend to join in on the fun, because we're in for quite a ride, bumpy or otherwise for many years to come. And in that regard THE AMIGA AIN'T DEAD!!! It really can't get any worse than it has been either.
 

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Re: Will Amiga ever live again?
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2004, 11:40:46 AM »
Cheer up, Bill Buck. You know what they say.

Some things with Amiga are bad.
They can really make you mad.
Other things just make you swear and curse
When you're posting on a newsgroup
Don't grumble, give a whistle!
And this'll help things turn out for the best
...AND...

Always look on the bright side of Migs (whistles)
Always look on the light side of Migs (whistles)
If the Amiga scene's jolly rotten
Then there's something you've forgotten!
And that's to play a game and dance and sing
When you're OS core dumps
Don't be silly chumps
Just play a mod and whistle, that's the thing

And always look on the bright side of Migs (whistles)
Come on! ...Always look on the red side of Migs (whistles)
The Court Case is quite absurd
And DE's the final word
You must always face the curtain with a bow
Forget about your sin
Give Amigans a grin
Enjoy it-- It's your last chance anyhow!

So always look at the blue screen of death
A-just before your PC draws its terminal breath
Windows is a piece a $hit
When you look at it
Amiga's a laugh and A1's a joke, it's true
You'll see it's all a show
Keep 'em laughin' as you go
Just remember that the last laugh is on you

And always look on the bright side of Pegs

(C'mon Bill, cheer up!)

Always look on the bright side of Pegs (whistle)
Always look on the bright side of Pegs (whistle)

(Worse things happened at Be, you know.)

Always look on the bright side of Migs (whistle)

(I mean, what've you got to lose? You know, you come from nothin', you're going back to nothin', what you lost? Errrr...Money!)

Always look on the blue side of Migs (whistle)

(Nothing will come from nothing... you know what they say. Cheer up, ya ol' bugger! C'mon, give us a grin.)

Always look on the blue side of Migs (whistle)

(There you are. See? It's the end of the Court Case. Incidentally, this songs available at Amiga.org.)

Always look on the bright side of Migs (whistle)

(Alan: Some of us've got to live as well, you know. Who do you think pays for all this rubbish?)

Always look on the bright side of Migs (whistle)

(KMOS'll never make their money back, you know. I told him, I said to him, Garry, I said, you'll never make their money back.)

Always look on ...