Work is work - or why job application forms and CVs are bullsh!t

[the_leander]

@ Mikeymike

That is perhaps one of the most profound yet gentle reads I have read in a VERY long time. Thankyou.

@KennyR

If I were a prospective employer who was reading what you'd said in this thread, not only would I not give you a job but I 'd slap you for being such an a$$hat.

You want a job, you play the game, you lie through your back teeth on your CV (BTW, did I mention to anyone I'm actually a Duke?) And smile like you're on tranks. You don't swear, you ask questions when unclear about something. BUT FFS MAN LEAVE THE UNIVERSITY ATTITUDE BEHIND YOU.

So its not who you are, big deal. You want food in yer belly and a roof over yer head, you work, to work, you have to get off that high horse of yours and bend and cotort until you get one, if you're lucky, you get one that A pays worth a damn, and B you enjoy.

[the_leander]

KennyR wrote:

tpg wrote:
Uh-huh... I shouldn't have taken that job. I should have starved instead.

Doing work isn't the part I detest. We all have to do stuff we don't want, that's how civilisation works. But this layer of pretentiousness they have over the whole jobs industry really stifles it and makes entry really hard for the right kind of people, the kind of people I'd want working for me if I was an employer. Instead we just get people well trained in the art of glamorising every little mundane and banal thing in their lives and turning it into positive - but very false - things to say.

People in some situations just don't have the choice, much as I sympathise with you.

They do have a choice in some situations: to be more honest and to put a cap on the industry bullsh!t fountain from concerted effort. But like that's ever going to happen... :-(

Pride and integrety are one thing, but you seem to take to extreems. I'm sorry if I seem rather angry in my last post but I consider things like food of greater importance, especially when I consider that my son also has to eat. So you have to be "Interview Kenny" for what? half an hour.. so what! You can take pride and have integrety in yer job but you got to be more flexable in yer approach to getting the job. As for glamorising the mundane, have you ever thought that that is what keeps them going? When I was a cleaner, I know it was what kept me going. The pay and conditions were crap, but I kept going and thats how I did.

(BTW cleaning is perhaps the most soul destroying job one can embark in, you do a great job, only for the people you clean for ruin it day after day after day. But I'm proud I stuck at it for 18 months until I got my nightshift factory job, shame that didn't last heh).

[the_leander]

KennyR wrote:

the_leander wrote:
(BTW cleaning is perhaps the most soul destroying job one can embark in, you do a great job, only for the people you clean for ruin it day after day after day. But I'm proud I stuck at it for 18 months until I got my nightshift factory job, shame that didn't last heh).

I wonder if that's as soul destroying as filling out form after form of meaningless fluff and getting no interviews, no interest, and only the ocassional "Sorry but we regret to inform..." letter while your health and looks are disappearing fast from having nothing to do all day, and you're heading fast towards the point where your qualifications will mean nothing and soon you'll have to pay back £5000 at £180 a month. That's really quite frustrating, to put it mildly.

Yes it is a lot more soul destroying (try it, you won't like it!), and yes its very frustrating to get "Sorry but we regret to inform you..." style letters. Though I have to say its more frustrating when they simply don't bother with the above style letter.