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Re: Your Dream Place Or Country That You Would Like To Visit
« on: December 16, 2004, 07:08:11 PM »
After centuries of beating off various parts of europe at one time or another (and loosing half the time, it has to be said) many brits feel like the EU is simply another way for Europe to rule the UK.

I think one way of putting it is this, if you ask a dutchman his or her nationality, they may say either dutch or european depending on who is asking. If a brit or a scott or welshman is asked, it will always be british, scottish or welsh respectively every time.

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Re: Your Dream Place Or Country That You Would Like To Visit
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2004, 05:26:23 AM »
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After centuries of beating off various parts of europe at one time or another (and loosing half the time, it has to be said) many brits feel like the EU is simply another way for Europe to rule the UK.
AHEM! it's really also vice versa
You British fought a 100 years for dominance over France.


Where did I say we didn't? Indeed I don't think theres a European country we haven't faught against at one time or other.

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I think one way of putting it is this, if you ask a dutchman his or her nationality, they may say either dutch or european depending on who is asking. If a brit or a scott or welshman is asked, it will always be british, scottish or welsh respectively every time.

I think you're wrong on that one. Europe is a faraway thingy.


I've yet to hear anyone on this island outside of polititians who openly go around saying "I'm european" over that of "I'm "

The ironic thing about all of this is that I feel that the UK has a more world centric view of the world compared to that of europe.
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Re: Your Dream Place Or Country That You Would Like To Visit
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2004, 05:37:07 AM »
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The way I see it:  The very-anti european parties in Britain like the Tory's and UKIP believe that one day the EU will become a country, not a collection of countries working together like it currently is.


When the leaders of Germany and France are saying just that, which they have, and when the shyster who came up with the constitution that would put into practice a form of governance not seen since the fall of Soviet Russia is saying thats the aim, I take note.

I may be considered by some as a "Little Englander" (Which by the way I personally find highly offensive) but really, anyone who cannot see this comming into being really aught to look very carefully at the constitution that was written up (And before anyone asks, yes I have read it). Once you learn to decode beaurocrat speak, you're left with a picture of utter ineficiency and a breading ground for corruption on a superb scale, all run from Brussels with no recourse by national governments to oppose it. You want a system thats flexable and efficient (for the most part) look to the US, not the USSR. States can challenge federal law if they so wish I believe, the EU constitution offers countries no such power.
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Re: Your Dream Place Or Country That You Would Like To Visit
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2004, 05:41:21 AM »
Sorry for going completely off topic.

The falkland Islands, purely for the recent history of the place.

Other places I'd like to visit include Canada, Iceland and Greenland. Maybe Ireland as well... Been to Wales and Scotland.. France, Germany Spain and Denmark...

I'd visit Sweeden but for the fact that the beer is stupidly overpriced there :-D
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