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[Plaz]

Amiga past, number 12... Sunrise AD1012? Other than that... I got nuthin'

Plaz

[Plaz]

@DiscreetFX

Guys I loved the toaster, love the flyer, but I'm having a hard time figuring out the point of this bounty. Let me take a stab though and tell me if I'm close...
 
You want to create a new FPGA based toaster/flyer for Minimig and/or X1000 that's code compatible with the original, but also capable of new features?

Wouldn't that also require original hardware code used in the toaster/flyer?

And tell Mr. Van Dyke I said thanks and hello.

Plaz

[Plaz]

Frankly, I don't see the point. If you want to run the thing, use UAE.

I think Toaster/Flyer software it too closely tied to hardware to word on UAE. Not that it couldn't be solved, but why?

Better still, get a Tricaster and be done with it.

I'm kind of scratching my head on this project. Ok, we recreate hardware in FPGA that allows open toaster to run on minimig/x1000... whatever. Maybe Minimig AGA, gives a head start, but this seems like a multi-headed beast bound to grow beyound scope.

Create FPGA toater... ok, that market of dozens satisfied

For wider appeal, give thee FPGA toater new capabilities... ok, need new software to run it

Ok, develope open toaster software to run the new FPGA. Seems like a ton of work when Newtek already has modern rigs to do the same job.

I'd like to think that if the x1000 were successful, Newtek might like to port their modern code/hardware over.

But then maybe I don't understand a bigger picture here.

Plaz

[Plaz]

Open Video Toaster is about preserving and enhancing the rich heritage of the Amiga Video Toaster and hopefully updating it a little bit for modern times on Amiga OS 4.x, AROS & MorphOS. How is video editing done on these operating systems today? It's not

A noble goal, but I'm trying to invision the implementation and having a tough time.

The first possibility is to recreate the classic Amiga and Toaster in tandem on FPGA. One option is to take Minimig AGA and marry it to a new FPGA Toaster. That gets you started by letting you use your current Open Toaster code with classic Amiga OS 3.x, but doesn't really get you on to AOS4, AROS or MOS based hardware. FPGAmiToast becomes it's own stand alone hardware/editor. Not a bad thing, but how many customers are we talking about?

I suppose in the next step you could do the same type thing NewTek did with the VT[2]... They had a front end on a forgien OS (windows actually) "drive" the Amiga/Toaster hardware. A two box setup. You could have a front end on AOS4, MOS and AROS "drive" the new FPGA AmiToaster, but like the windows solution, it's kind of redundant.

Am I close on how you're thinkning on this? Normally I would be all for this type of project, but the target audience seems terribly small.

I'm thinking it would be cool to concentrate efforts to get VT[5] drivers and apps ported to AOS4 instead. Pop a PCI VT card into a AOS4, MOS or AROS board and you are smokin'

Plaz

[Plaz]

Still not quite sure what this thread is all about... :confused:

But if you buy yourself a decent DVD/HD recorder with built in editing functions then hook it up to your miggy via USB and a couple of other bit and bobs, then you've got yourself a fully functioning video editing suite, just like I have...

Watch this video and you see one of the reasons we still talk about Amiga/Toaster 20 years later.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyGCYoZ5Nlk

Plaz

[Plaz]

Yea, we thought about that one but no one was interested.

Who are these "no ones"? Not interested in bringing Amiga and NewTek back together on modern hardware??? Yet reinventing the wheel makes sense to them? Madness.

Then we're back to the only option left that makes a lick of sense... combo FPGA MinimigAGA/Toaster stand-alone running AOS3.x, make a front-end GUI that runs on AOS4, MOS, AROS and maybe grow from there to include HD features. Still... a tough sell to a small audience.

Plaz

[Plaz]

"I don't know anyone who wants "Video Games" with 90's quality" graphics today."

And we know that's not true...

People want an entertaining, pleasing and stimulating experience. If that's manifested in recreating a gaming experience, returning to an old hobby, or watching a movie from their past, great. But we don't have to rebuild all the old technology and hardware all over again to recapture those experiences. Host your old fav media on new hardware.

There was a time when a classic Amiga clone and toaster combo would have had a nice market. I think we're about 10 years past that time. Commodore squandered the chance to lead with things like the toaster/flyer. Now NewTek lives in the windows/mac world. X1000 with AOS4 might hope to join the party by supporting the latest card, but it will never lead again. (well, never say never)

Plaz

[Plaz]

Another wasted thread, the signal to noise ratio has really gotten bad on a.o lately....

Pretty much started around mid 1997

Plaz

[Plaz]

Someone wanted it bad enough to basically pay for it.

Guess so. Actually I hope they get it. I'm questioning the motivation, but not rooting against it.

Plaz