Hyperion AmiWest Announcement

[Plaz]

Hmmm.... to buy a copy even though I don't have a PPC card....

I'm wondering at this point if this is just to tweek Amiga Inc's nose. We'll see  at the end of November I suppose.

Plaz

[Plaz]

was that classic OS4 wasn't allowed to come out before now?

One of the Hyperion devs (Rouge I think) had said way back when in a thread that classic was low priority to completing OS4 for A1. If they could have seen the future with no PPC hardware, maybe their priority would have been different. Once OS4 was 'final', they got to work on classic. I don't think there was any restriction to the classic version other than available time.

Plaz

[Plaz]

Hyperion deserve no support and it is amazing how people are cheering them on when THEY are the ones who have delayed OS4 for years

Plenty of blame to go around. I see one huge reason for the delay being the lack of A1 boards available. Who's to blame for not licencing more manufactures? OS4 has been available in beta for years, but many of us had no where to run it to help spur it's progress. Go lay some of your blame at Amiga Inc's doorstep if you're going to be fair. Because THEY are just if not more guilty for the mess.

Many here are trying not to pick sides, they're just happy to see OS4 moving some where, some how.

Plaz

[Plaz]

Guess they are running low on cash for lawyers. Or they just want to make as much as they can in case they lose the law suit.

Perhaps, but I don't see it making a lot of money. How many copies to sell... a couple thousand? And don't they have to pay Amiga Inc a cut on each sale? So they'd be funding the enemy too.

There would seem to be some reasoning in paying Amiga Inc their cut... to prove to the judge they are good responsible license holders, and they deserve to keep it.

Plaz

[Plaz]

I haven't been following the legal bollocks, but perhaps Hyperion will argue that Amino/Amiga went bankrupt then they don't have to pay KMOS/Amiga?

I've been reading the court papers but not analyzing as deeply as some. I see Hyperion with two points to their defence. First.... we've done nothing that gives Amiga Inc the right to pull our license. Second... since than whole AmigaWest/Itec/Kmos/AmigaEast thing was invalid, we hold perpetual license anyway. Any experts reading this please forgive my massive simplification.

Plaz

[Plaz]

@Dammy

FYI, I'm not agreeing/disagreeing or defending Hyperion. I'm just paraphrasing what I understand are their two main points. Sorry I didn't make that clear befor your in-depth response.

I've avoided long discussions on it all since I see tons of grey area on both sides. For example...

That signed second contract with Itec (or was it KMOS?) for a port job again clearly shows Hyperion believed the succession of corps to be the true owner of IP they licensed. Else why would they sign that second contract?

Now Hyperion says details of the Amiga West<>Itec transfer involving things like insolvency where kept from them before signing the contract with Itec. Again I can't agree or disagree because I wasn't there, but with out proper documentation on both sides how can a "less-than-layperson" like me begin to decide. Many want to side here or there based on common sense, prior history and postings, and what I think are "sketchy documents".... hard to tell what will really matter to the judge though.

All I know for sure it both sides have messed it up good (developers excluded) and there isn't a fast easy way out because they can't come to an agreement with out stacks of lawyers. Personally I put large blame on those behind every version of Amiga Inc since the takeover from Gateway. They have done a poor job keeping their house and IP in order.

Plaz