Which to choose? 'Red pill or Blue pill'

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My advice is to follow the trend in the local community. Here in Sweden almost everyone I know use A1 or Classic Amiga. If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs. So for me it was a choice about joining a community with about 20 users (peg!) or about 300 (amiga).

The OS4 event here was visited by 250 people. The Pegasos event PUGS, well, about 10.

If the situation in your country is the opposite, choose Pegasos. If it´s the same as in Sweden, choose A1/Classic.

It´s never fun to be alone.

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itix wrote:

Here in Sweden almost everyone I know use A1 or Classic Amiga. If you use a Pegasos you are not welcome in most amiga clubs.

LOL. Why is that?

Well. I guess a lot of people think that UAE, MorphOS, Amithlon and all that is fine, but it´s not Amiga.

At AmiGbg the conflict was quite obvious. Jens from Individual Computers responded to a question if he would consider supporting pegasos / morphos, with the frase "and a serious question please?" and then continued ranting about Bill Buck being a menace to society. A few MorphOs supporters were there, in spite of it being an amiga event, and they got quite upset. Well, the situation got ugly, and as a result many now feel that MorphOs users should stick to pegasos events from now on and leave the amiga community alone.

Perhaps the situation is extreme here, but the amiga community is quite large in Sweden, and loyal to the extreme. Many of us old users have followed amiga for two decades and would probably follow amiga inc through the gates of hell before we switched to any 3rd party solution.

It´s really sad. I sold my pegasos II even though I liked it, but everybody else has an AmigaOne here so it got kind of lonely. And I had to sell it cheap to, becauase here we are well stocked with brand new Peg 2 boards that nobody will buy. I should have saved the board and used it as a server, but I was short on cash

But with PUGS and stuff, the small Pegasos community might grow over time, and as development continues I'm sure they can break all ties with amiga and be a full fledged community by themselves. Then perhaps I will join! But today I´m stuck with the boing ball, and the butterfly will have to wait...    

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reflect wrote:
@ itix

But I can't still understand why ban WinUAE, Amithlon or Pegasos users from the club. It is like lonely dark fortress in the middle of nothing.

I'm sorry, but I don't know of a single usergroup that bans people that are using something else than Amiga in Sweden. I think this picture that has been portrayed here.. well, it's not the picture I have of it.

Well, It's not like it's a big sign hanging over doors that reads "pegasos users will get shot" but you don't exactly get welcomed with open arms, right? I think it's true to say that the conflict has caused a lot of anger and dissapointment. If you are an ACG member, wouldn't you say that AmiGbg was an event that supported A-inc and not Genesis? Or would you say that both plattforms were promoted equally, and equally welcome? Was Genesis even invited? No, I feel it's safe to say that MorphOS i generally frowned upon, even by a lot of members of your own local club. Besides, It was quite clear that pegasos user clubs were not welcome when the different amiga clubs sought to unite under one banner.

But hey, I don't say that they are wrong. You don't have to love the butterfly or the boingball. This has always been a battle of hearts, not a battle between two systems. And it will continue to be. Personally, I´m glad that there are alternatives to the x86 out there, and if everybody starts using AOS4, then thats fine. If everybody starts using MorphOS, that´s fine too. I can live with both.

What bothers me is that we, the community, have always been Amiga. Not some company. And now we get divided by some silly legal {bleep} between two companies. Well, I for one still say "We are amiga!". I hope I'm not the only one.

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Well, then we see things differently. When I bough my peg 1, I got mail calling me all sorts of ugly things. When I engaged in discussions and pleaded for unity and everybodys right to call themselves "amiga user" I got a similar response. Not in open discussions, but privately. I got quite tired of defending myself all the time.

Therefore, when I bought a Peg 2, I didn't say a word to anybody. And then I sold it.

And "What the big fight was about" was perhaps if the word Amiga could include "amiga-like systems" or not. Most people seems to feel it cannot. Amiga = Amiga inc and nothing else. The definition that Amiga = users is not generally accepted. Many argued that a federation should seek to be affiliated with Amiga inc.

As I previously stated, I couldn't care less of any stupid court fight, but when something that's supposed to be fun causes me great discomfort, I back off. So for now, I'll stick with my A4000.

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Great! Seems like we are at least 3 then, and probably a lot more.