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Oh another death knell in regards to Apple from mips... there isn't anything killing Apple!  They're still selling 3-4 million computers a year regardless of how their marketshare looks compared to others, which marketshare itself is not the only important ingredient for relevancy, installed userbase is another, which Apple has a grand share of (11.6% of all computers installed worldwide, supposedly).  Take into account that out of 200+ million people in the US, only about 60+ million actually have a computer of sometime type (it being an Amiga, PC, Mac and etc...) and Apple's userbase accounts for nearly 30 million Mac users worldwide!

Just  a few facts to help quiet your pro-apple rant.  First of all noone who knows how to do simple math really believes that Apple is over 11% of the market.   The man who claimed that in the article late last year, also claimed that Apple is the #1 computer manufacturer.   Now for the real facts.   Apple sells about 3 million computers a year, total worldwide sales of PCs (including apple) was about 120 million last year (apple is about 2.5 % of the market).   Last year Dell sold more computers every quarter then Apple sold for the whole year (2 other companies did that as well).   Dell last year sold more x86 computers then the entire number of PowerPC computers made by Apple over the last 6 years.    See how 11% is getting to seem pretty far fetched???    In fact if you say that only the last 2 years of x86 boxes are still being used, and the last 6 years of macs are all in use you get less then 1/2 the mythical 11%.   Add all the power macs ever made (including clones) and you still dont get 11% if you just count the last 2 years of x86 boxes against them.
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AmigaMac wrote:
Tigger how convenient... I knew you would be in here soon enough!

Been on vacation in southeast asia the last 3 weeks, so no posting here.

In regards to our past debate on Pixar and Sun Microsystems and what Pixar was actually using in-house:

Enjoy the article!

That article pretty much agreed with what I posted before I believe, at Siggraph we were told that they were going intel and that there was no version 10 of Renderman for Sun, it basically says that here as well, saying they replaced the suns with intel servers over the last 6 months, and as we saw before Pixar no longer lists Sun as a supported platform for Renderman as of the last version.
 

As for the marketshare versus installed userbase... those 2 numbers don't go hand in hand!

Now that was the simple of it!  Unfortunately for Dell, it hasn't been around as long as Apple, also Windows PCs have not held their value as long as Macs since Windows didn't start to lead over DOS until after Windows 3.1, while Macs were already being used and like my own Mac SE/30 (1989), is still usable today!  There's probably more Macs from the late 80s in use than DOS PCs of the same era!

Of course it's hard to gauge how many computers that have been sold in the last 20 years are still in use, it's more of a guessing game and lots of research!

That's where marketshare percentage becomes obsolete because it can't erase the numbers of past sales and the installed userbase that has been put in place.  On top of all that, marketshare shifts from quarter to quarter and year to year.  We saw Apple's marketshare rise last quarter (for the US alone) to about 3.7% (maybe 3.9%).  These numbers will always change, HP is #1 currently with Dell at #2 and with Legend out of China making inroads, there could be more competition on the way!

Its great you like you Mac SE/30.   But understand that if we just take the last two years of x86 boxes and EVERY SINGLE PPC mac every built as a UNIQUE user (obviously not true, lots have owned 2 or 3 Power Macs) and all still be used (obviously not true) then we are less then 1/2 way to the quoted 11.5%.   There are lots and lots and lots of pre-jan 2001 x86 boxes out there, being used every day.   Lots more then there are pre PPC macs being used by someone that doesnt have a newer computer.  Every amiga still in use, reduces mac marketshare, every ST etc, I dont see any way to crunch the numbers and get mac to double digits.
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Ignore Marktime he is a MorphOS Dude
The $499 price he keeps quoting is obsolete and HE KNOWS IT!!!!

It seems to be the price (actually $495) on their website, systems with the board are $799 so I'm not sure how much more you think it is then $495, could you give us a source for your pricing, since the Terrasoft site disagrees with you?

They Keep promoting the LICENSING myth knowing full well that it is a load of bull and that GENESI is the ONE and only reason AOS4 is not available for GREX and Pegasos.

That theory would hold lots more water if we hadnt heard from the manufacturers of the Barbie PPC board and other PPC manufacturers the same thing about A0S4.  The reason the OS isnt going to be on anything but "Amiga One" is the dongle ROM, pure and simple.  If they had used an external USB dongle, the protection would have been the same for pirating (the "official" reason for the dongle rom), other manufactures could have bought the OS for their boards, Terrasoft might have even put it on Apple hardware like they do their YDL.   Imac with AmigaOS 4.0 anyone, Powerbook with AmigaOS 4.0 sound interesting???   The only one that profits from the closed AmigaOne system is Eyetech, who dont have to compete with anyone for Amiga OS 4.0 compatible boards, everyone else loses.
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