potential PPC Amiga REAL CHEAP

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

learn how to spell first then go re-read my edited message

Diaz, but those are all electric, not fuel cell. :rtfm:

[adolescent]

:flame:

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

Update: part of my suspension and brake package is now pictured on that page and on the next is my wheels...

Why aren't you doing the work yourself?  The best part of car customizing is satisfaction of doing it yourself.

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

#4: I don't like to get my hands dirty

Anybody can write a check.  :-(  

If you wanted to keep your hands clean then starting with a 15+ year old car isn't a good idea.  But then again, you don't have to worry about that.

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:
Woah!  This guy has a boat-load of NGC development equipment including this USB adapter via the memorycard port:

I'd rather have the SN-TDEV.  With the added memory, it could run AOS4!  :lol:

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:
...have you heard?  Revolution Developer's Kits are only $2000! http://revolution.ign.com/articles/690/690730p1.html

Yes, but will they really sell one to you?  It's easy to get a second hand NR Reader but getting something straight from Nintendo is going to be tough.

[adolescent]

@lou

Good luck then.  I still don't think they'll sell devkits to people off the street (they never have, even buying from SNSystems you need to be registered developer).  Being a licensed developer working with a small dev team is a small thing compared to being a bedroom coder.  

Also remember that Nintendo has to approve what gets published.  You'd have to convince Atari AND Nintendo and I don't think that's going to happen either.  But, maybe in a few years a modchip for the Rev will be released and we'll have this thread repeat itself. :crazy:

Re: E3.  It's not as exciting as it used to be.  Too many non-industry types getting in on faked credentials.  I didn't even bother to go last year because of the crowds and lack of anything interesting to look at/play.  (I had been every year except the first one and the one that was in Atlanta) .  This year, with the lack of booth babes might be even worse, but at least the new systems will be displayed.  

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

adolescent wrote:

Yes, but will they really sell one to you?  It's easy to get a second hand NR Reader but getting something straight from Nintendo is going to be tough.

Well, if you've been following there announcements since E3, they are looking to attract small developers and reduce team sizes and development time.  I think the first 'Brain Training' game on the DS was done by no more than 5 people...

Well, I just got a reply to my Revolution devkit inquiry.  Basicly it was "sod off, we only sell development kits to established developers".  So, no Yaroze! for Nintendo.  I'm sure Sony won't let the homebrew developers down at least.

[adolescent]

Tripitaka wrote:

adolescent wrote:
I'm sure Sony won't let the homebrew developers down at least.

WHAT!!! RU MUCKING FAD? Sony have let homebrew developers down every time. They offer the kit at inflated prices and with naff devware. PSP is just the latest example of hardware that could have given us a whole new generation of bedroom coders...but no! Try GP32X instead.

Every time?  Remember, Playstation had Net Yaroze! homebrew kit, Playstation 2 had PS2 Linux Kit for homebrew, Playstation 3 is rummored to support Linux development (or maybe with add-on).  

Sony is the only company consistantly letting homebrew developers have affordable and available tools for their consoles.

It's Sony's right to lock out pirates and people using illegal copies of the PSP SDK.  Nintendo and Microsoft do the same with their consoles.  The GP2X only market is homebrew, since there are no commercial softwares for it.

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Tripitaka wrote:
Ha BL~~DY Ha, I think you miss the point. Yaroze was expensive for a couple of cables and a fuzzy black texture PS, required a PC and lacked many of the features the full Playstation developers' suite provided.

Expensive?.  $650 when the Playstation was $200 doesn't seem like that much of a stretch.  But, of course it was stripped down.  Who would pay for a full dev unit if the "homebrew" version was thousands cheaper and offered the same features.  The developers I worked with in the past all used modified PS to test games.  It was too risky to burn up a dev unit.

Linux on PS2 may well be welcome but the HDD included with the Linux Kit is not compatible with PlayStation 2 games, (reformatting the HDD with the utility disc provided with the retail HDD enables use with PlayStation 2 games but removes the Linux). It didn't use the DVD ROM drive either did it, hmm....I'll give it a 4.

You can use the DVD-ROM, don't know where you heard that.  As for the HD, you are probably correct.  But, unless you want to play FFX (or the other 2-3 HD games) that isn't a big deal.  (I've never been asked to reformat mine)

However, an A1200 just required a copy of Blitz Basic to get most people going and you don't need to reformat a HDD to play games. Even the CD32 was more flexible than Linux PS2 for homebrew.

Are you BL~~DY mad?  The PS2 + Linux kit has more memory, a HD, Ethernet, DVD-ROM, VGA output, USB, etc. all which the CD32 is lacking.  The CD32 doesn't even come with a floppy drive or keyboard.  To develop ON the CD32 you need an expensive add-on, or you need to use a seperate computer (hmm... one of the negatives you said about PS homebrew)

I agree about the A1200, but that's because it's a computer.  (But, remember this entire thread is based on the delusion that the GCN can become a computer).  

And, again say that you need to format the HDD to play games.  This is not true.  It is only true if you want to use the HDD with a HDD compatible game.

I would like to see a true homebrew system like the Amiga was.

Agreed.  Like I said the PS3 looks promising if it comes with Linux like has been mentioned.  Otherwise, people can always grab a PC (they probably already have) and start coding.

[adolescent]

_ThEcRoW wrote:
For when os4 on my beloved N64??

Don't be silly...  The N64 is a MIPS super-computer, not a PPC super-computer like the Gamecube.  Although, because it's a MIPS super-computer, it can obviously run Irix, and even better than any SGI box, because it's from Nintendo.  :crazy:

uh Nintendo kicks ass! Nintendo should buy SGI...  :lol:

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:

Well, if you know your Nintendo history, you will also recall that ArtX, the developers of the Flipper all-in-one GPU in the GC were former SGI employees.  As you know ATI bought ArtX and I don't think even Nintendo can buy ATI.

And SGI and Nintendo worked together on Project Reality which ended up producing the N64.  And so on...

But there's nothing worth buying of SGI now...all the useful people now work at ATI...  ...and that's how ATI got into the console GPU business...look at them now!

There's nothing to buy off of Amiga, Inc. yet you suggested it.  

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The fact that the Bitmap Brothers, Team 17, Factor5, Digital Illusions, etc. are still around has nothing to do with the current Amiga, Inc.  It has everything to do with them developing good games (then AND now), and peoples willingness to buy them.  

Don't give Amiga, Inc. credit for buying and sitting on a name.  All they have to show for it is a batch of third party PocketPC games.

[adolescent]

lou_dias wrote:
I think Revolution hardware will be exploited instantly due to it's 100% HARDWARE backwards compatibility with the GC.  

I don't think so.  I don't think Nintendo would risk leaving the PSO back door in.  AFAIK, the Action Replay isn't an officially licensed software so there's no reason for Nintendo to make sure it runs either.  Anyway, it's easy enough to add an abstraction layer when running in GCN mode so even if existing hacks worked, they could only access what they could on the GCN.

[adolescent]

@diaz

Don't know how Opera on the Wii and DS gets you any closer to AOS4 on the GCN, but ok.  (Or, should I just say Whoopii? :lol:)

[adolescent]

@diaz

Ok, so now it's now "If you can put opera on it, you can put AROS" instead of the tired old "If you can put linux on it, you can put AOS 4".  :crazy:

(BTW, ever thought that it is you that spells your name wrong?)