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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« on: October 01, 2003, 02:46:06 PM »
I quite liked Atari ST. Although for me, the sound output was a bit tinny compared to Amiga's Paula! :-)
Is it possible to emulate an Atari ST on Amiga?
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2003, 03:27:38 PM »
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Is it possible to emulate an Atari ST on Amiga?


Yes...but I've had no luck so far with any of the emulators I've tried due to the fact that aside from the Falcon series (and Hades 060 clones) the Atari ST line never made it past the 68000 cpu - where as an accelerated Amiga chokes either the emulators or the TOS (I can't recall which is the case).

Even trying to get the ST Emulators to run under UAE as a plain A500 I've had no luck.

There were also a few hardware based ST emulators if I remember correctly too, but these probably would be really difficult to find secondhand.


So is there any ST emus (programs) about that can be downloaded for the Amiga? I have seen a few ST hacks on Aminet net but that isn't what i was looking for. I have used some ST emus on PC but it would be interesting to see if there are any about. Surely it is possible, they share the same processors, like the MAC and that gets emulated.

I would like to see some of the games that were made both for the ST and Amiga to see how they compare. Especially some of the earlier games. I think that Stunt Car Racer made for the ST was a that little bit faster than the Amiga version due to the slighty better processor. Well, anything before A1200, A3000 and A4000!
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2003, 03:53:09 PM »
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The higher clockrate (8MHz vs the A500/A2000's 7.14MHz) 68000 did little to improve software performance.

Indeed,  the sound chip IMO was terrible compared to the mighty Paula and that tiny bit of extra CPU time was not gonna make the difference when you started using sampled sounds, that took CPU time. The C64 even had things the ST didnt, eg: hardware scrolling .

I had an STE for a very short time, never liked it, glad i got rid of it.
 
-edit  errr oh umm be quiet Calen :-)


Apart from the sound, the ST wasn't really all that bad. The games between the ST and Amiga were comparable and similar. Maybe the ST would have been better off with the SID chip! Didn't the ST use the same sound chip as the one found in a ZX Spectrum 128k?
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2003, 04:06:58 PM »
A GREAT PHILOSEPHER ONCE TRULY SAID "THE ST WAS A POOR MANS AMIGA"
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #4 on: October 02, 2003, 12:05:55 PM »
How much do Atari ST's normally fetch up to on Ebay then? I might have a search for one! lol
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Re: Amiga 2000HD - VS - Atari Mega4 ST
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2003, 05:05:22 PM »
So there we have it. Out of Amiga and Atari ST, the Amiga is clearly the better mint.
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