The Downward Spiral of Amiga Incorporated

[System]

I don't know that I consider it "gloom and doom".  For the past 8 years, I've seen my share of both good and bad news related to the Amiga name brand and still it survives, and we go on.  

For the first time that I recall reading an article about the situation, I think James was able to walk a straight-line right down the middle with a straight discussion of the unavoidably grim facts but still pointing out that all is not yet lost.

Besides, I believe the Amiga.org staff by way of it's new magazine is trying to do what they think best to help the community, and the platform as well.  Whether good news or bad, the community needs to know everything that affects this hobby, without crossing the lines one way or another.

I believe they've got a good plan, a good "staff" lined up, and a good chance to establish the magazine as an excellent resource of written Amiga information.

Best of luck.

[System]

why  you don´t make a news article on the accounts of genesis?  Or whichever Pegasos has been sold to date?  ah, that doesn´t interest.
whenever leaves the good news-(amigaone running in aone or amigaone lite )-related to amiga(original), you jump like noxious animals on the prey.  Every day I like except this.

it is already known, the one that pays, commands

[System]

Kees , why don´t you erase the article? (as my last post)
Cause the article is in itself a :flame:


to moderate does not mean only the forums but the news too.   :-x

[System]

"Your comment was a trolling one."

ok,you are right, and I request excuses to you.

but it´s very suspicious that always leaves east type the news when there are  good news on about aone/os4.

  I never see the negative news on  of genesi in this site.

[System]

"Is there any 'negative news about Genesi' you think we've missed?"

I don´t know it, but I can´t be thought that there isn´t any.
You can think that this is not a good moment to make that article.  I don´t understand that you look for making this article.

We hoped to see new products of Amigainc.,(hyperion, eyetech) not that remembers to us badly that is, constantly.  That we already know it

 :-(

[System]

Don't forget that AO is hosted on Genesi servers.

Wrong.  I have zero idea where you got this idea.

Several AO former team members now work or are affiliated with Genesi.

Absolutely true.  What's your point?  There are only Targhan and myself, and if you've noticed (which I'll bet you have conveniently NOT noticed), both Dave and I have pretty much stayed clear of any conversations, decisions, or interests in Amiga.org.  To put it damned bluntly, we simply don't have time for it any more.

This thread was a bit different (and is my first real post in what seems like forever) because it's important.  No one can help the fact that there is a large segment of this community who doesn't like and randomly refuses to accept the facts.

[System]

It also should be said up-front that amiga.org server is hosted by Genesi,

Again,  not sure where you EVER got this idea.  It's a prime example of rumors being spread without basis of fact.

We're hosted by rackshack.net on servers that we have paid for, for about the next 14 months.  Rackshack is one of the world's largest dedicated server providers, serving literally millions of domains and hosting literally thousands of servers.

Cite your proof on this one please, because I, for one, am very sick of hearing it.

[System]

but it´s very suspicious that always leaves east type the news when there are good news on about aone/os4.

Actually, no, it's not.  I know that James had been agonizing over the writing of this article, having put it through several revisions over the last several weeks.  

When writing an indepth editorial, you cannot plan around the news which is being posted in the meanwhile.  For example, during the time James took to piece this together (while reading and absorbing all the court documentation), Amiga Inc could have easily either gotten a new investor or they could have physically filed bankruptcy.   Either of which would have negated any real need for this article.

There was new court evidence even presented after James started writing the article for which he had to back up and adjust again.

James did a great job and is not to blame if certain people simply cannot handle the facts.

[System]

I'm afraid it's down to the nice folks on "the other site". Some bright spark realised that Amiga.org and MorphZone were hosted on the same server, and therefore "deduced" that the Amiga.org server must be owned by Genesi and that they are clearly funding the entire operation.

Well, that explains it.  Thanks very much.  What I find amazing is that we bought our own services at Rackshack.net (which is now "Everyone's Internet") but Dave got a friend of his at IBM (Gary Sarff) to host morphzone.org on a virtual domain on a machine that Gary himself was leasing from Rackshack.  (Remember, this is WELL before Dave was ever employed or even approached by Genesi)

Dave then actively helped me (and Amiga.org) in the transition off of Amiga's server (in their office) to the servers at rackshack.net, but the fact that we use the same hosting provider is supposed to be some sort of damnable proof that Amiga.org is hosted by Genesi...?  Incredible leap of logic..

For what it's worth, we're using rackshack.net at the recommendation of Dave, Gary Sarff, Damien McKenna, and about a dozen people at Intercosmos.  So far I think it's worked out pretty well.

[System]

Looks like someone on staff took your advice and set up an Editorials "section" (on the left).  I would always advise that future editorials here be posted as news, though under the Amiga.org announcements category, pointing to the editorial in the section.  They have to be posted as news, to allow for comments and I would believe that any editorial written as well as this one DESERVES to be on the front page.

Don't remove this one though, it's far too late for that.

Wayne

[System]

@skyraker

Nice attempt at pedantic trolling.  I could go back and edit the line to say "Amiga.org is" but you know damned well what I meant.  I still consider myself a member of this Website, even though I'm not an admin.  It's a hard-earned habit over the last 8 years that I ran the Web site.

Wayne

[System]

Glaucus, totally in agreement with you.  ;-)

[System]

Targhan,

The editorials section was apparently added by the staff this morning.

Wayne

[System]

redrumloa :hammer:
I find that you will keep the desires

[System]

It's official.  People will invent anything to "abandon" Amiga.org and promote their agenda.

Sorry you're disgruntled, sorry you didn't like it, sorry that the world is coming to an end.   Have a nice day.