Midgets Go to War: Genesi sues Amiga Inc.

[System]

Guys,

Keep in mind here that we have absolutely no details other than the fact that it's happening.  As such -- despite your intuition as the Amiga community -- you cannot make any real judgements based on facts.  We do not know why Genesi did it.  We don't know that it's a bad thing.

In short, before you all go bonkers as usual, take a minute to think about the fact that you're acting on heresay and emotion (and in some cases religious fervor) at this point, not facts.

Let the companies play their cards.  We aren't being invited to watch, nor should we be.

[System]

I think its funny as hell... A.inc bieng taken to court... I wonder if they will show up in a wonderbread truck...hahahaha

[System]

This is really great news.

We haven't heard anything from Amiga Inc. in over a year now.

So the truth is about to be revealed, and no matter which way it goes, we will finally know something.

Bill Buck knew that he needed OS4 in order to survive.
He knew that MorphOS was doomed if it were to compete against OS4.

So now, he's trying to get OS4 to run on Pegasos.

Smart move, but we'll have to see which way it goes.

I really don't know which way I would like this to turn out.    :-?

[System]

Midgets Go to War

Genesi has been on a path of war, with various Amiga supporting companies for quite some time now. I am sure that in a couple of years, when all this has blown over, people will be amazed about how deep this rabid hole goes. Today we know most of the details and difficulties surrounding the birth of the original Amiga platform. But when the background story of the current Amiga market finally hits the public they will likely read this with complete disbelieve....

Again this lawsuit is totally unrelated to Genesi's continuous mentions of the fact that Amiga Inc regards that their MorphOS product is illegal. (Originally publicly revealed by Ralph a long time ago, then again underlined with revealing a confidential email from Fleecy and now this).

Genesi wants to have the AmigaDE on the Pegasos (I believe likely for branding purposes or just to waste some more time for their rivals) , as they had a contract (for which they paid nobody anything) for their never finished SmartBoy (WinCE) product. I believe this is truly remarkable and a complete waste of time for both parties.

Sadly this isn't the first time that these people have been wasting Amiga Inc's and related companies' valuable time and resources...

[System]

But I must say, that if Genesi winds up loosing this court battle, they are going to be another Haage and Partner to me.

If wrong is being done by Amiga Inc. then Genesi will win in court.
But if Genesi looses, then I will know that it is just another small time company trying to pull down the amiga community.

I can't wait to see how it turns out.

Hope Amiga Inc. wins though.
That's my personal opinion.    ;-)

[System]

Genesi is starting to impress me as a company in the sense that they are ruthless and very strategic in their moves

Hitler impressed a lot of people too.
I'm not comparing Genesi to Hitler, but I'm just bringing out a valid point.

My interpretation of the situation is that Bill Buck is sweating hard.

[System]

It was simple really.

Genesi looks good to some people, but looks bad to others.

While one side might think that God is good, the other side might think that Lucifer is good.

It's all in the way you look at things.

In my eyes....
Well, we'll wait and see the outcome.

Then I'll tell you my view.

[System]

@ Zacman

Nobody said it was. It's clear: "breech of contract".

Come on now, this was presented in the same misleading way as people are starting to get used to. By emphasizing something totally unrelated and then spreading FUD without mentioning any details on the true substance of this issue. (IMO = spreading misinformation and confusion)

Didn't you want to post a proof together with a URL?

No, it was you who demanded this. The first time I publicly read about any legal issues surrounding MorphOS (the ABOX), this was written by Ralph Schmidt in German quite some time ago. Long before any mention of this at ANN.

I believe with all the fuss they are creating, they are essentially shooting themselves in the foot and are degrading the entire Amiga community along the process.

[System]

This is madness.

No... THIS is the Amiga community of 2003 -- Welcome... Enter of your own free will (and get immediately polarized to one stupid side or the other).

[System]

Enter of your own free will (and get immediately polarized to one stupid side or the other

and wayne's right in the middle....

hehehe    :-D

[System]

and that there aren't
getting 100% of the developers as long as OS4 still looks like
an option.

So if you don't get it all your way, sue the heck out of everyone.

HHHaaaa....

That's lame.

[System]

Man, I have no idea what you're talking about.

Amiga Inc. hasn't said anything about anything for over a year now.

They've been working on thier projects the way they should be worked on.

Private.

I guess the silence was just eating Bill Buck to pieces.

Yesterday was yesterday.
Amiga seems to be a lot different than what they used to be.

Just my opinion though.

Amiga Inc. hasn't wanted anything from Genesi.
It's the other way around.

You're confused.

Furthermore...
Hyperion has never got involved with any of this.
What are you talking about?

[System]

Is OS 4 a thread to Genesi? -Not a very big one,I think.We don´t know when it will be released or if its worth waiting for.Maybe it´s a piece of crap,who knows?
Genesi seems to have more money and they have achieved much more than Amiga Inc,who have turned mute now as it seems.
It seems to me that Genesi is rather confident to win in court.
Maybe Bill Buck is just doing this to get rid of Amiga Inc. ,so what?Amiga Inc. had threatened to do something like this all the time (I think even to the creators of Amithlon ?) and now its time for ARMAGEDDON(or AmiGeddon if you like).
Maybe Amiga Inc. gets bankrupt if they lose,I wouldn´t miss them after all the BS BillMc used to tell us and now he´s saying nothing at all.What would we lose?AmigaDE and thats it.
Hyperion might publish OS 4 on their own ("HyperionOS" or something *g*) and Eyetech could sell "EyetechOne"-systems. )

I stick with the good,old Sega-slogan:

The better one wins.

[System]

Well, supposedly they sue for a "breech of contract" (which is of course not a "fact" unless the a court says so).

The only known contract concerns AmigaDE (probably the only one that does exist).

So ... theyre suing because a product does not exist for a platform that does not exist payed for with nothing? I dont know what theyre up to.

ps: bb is making a fool of himself on ann (again).

[System]

@Alkemyst
And where´s the Amiga now?Ho ho ho...  :-P
BTW: Sega still is one of the most important video-game developers of the world.