Amithlon/Berniethlon development mothballed

[System]

Well, there it is.

Thanks Haage and Partner.
You'll never see my buisness.

Nor will anyone else who tries to stand in the way of the "True Amiga".

You people need to understand that your evil plot is not going to work.
You can fight against Amiga Inc. all you want, but you're only hurting yourselves.

Go ahead and stand up for Pegasos if you wish.
It doesn't matter to me.

I know what I'm going to spend my money on.

Elbox, Haage and Partner, Pegasos...
Go your own way.

But I can almost bet you who the winner is going to be.

I don't know about the rest of the community, but I am quite fed up with all the dirty tricks and fighting.

Hyperion are professionals.
Bill McEwen is a professional.
Fleecy is the man.

Go ahead and go the route that Amiga has gone for many, many years and reap the benefits.
Bankrupt!!!

Amiga Inc. is finally giving me what I want out of a company.
One day, I predict that I will once again be buying amiga hardware and software just around the corner.
and I won't be ripped off with all the outrageous prices and availability issues that Amiga has had for years.

You are fighting a losing battle, and you will see one day, that I was right.( for once )

Hey Bill McEwen.
Keep the Amiga going buddy.
You're doing a fine job.
I hope your drive for the amiga does not lessen.
I hope that you are determined to put Amiga on the top again.
I hope that you are ready to prove all these cotton pickin people wrong.

Hyperion...
You take as long as you want to.
Make it right.
And show the rest of the world that Amiga is a quality product.

Thanks to everyone who believes in the true Amiga spirit.

 :-D

[System]

You know what?

If Bernie's health is good enough, I hope that he can build some killer app for the AmigaOS4.

Talent like that should not be wasted and thrown away by people like Haage and Partner.

But after all that he's been through with H&P he will probably just stay at home and relax.

Hey Bernie, your efforts were not in vain.
We appreciate everything that you tried to do for us.

Thanks man!!!

You are now officially in Amiga History as one of the good guys.
Congratulations!

But I really hope that this is not the last we see of you.

[System]

He could have sued them last spring instead of letting Bernie
spill the beans, he could have made his Sep.1st threats a reality.

And how are you supposed to sue anyone when you are pulling out of a depression yourself.
You know it does take a lot of time and money to sue people in a court of law.
And time or money is not something that Amiga Inc. has a lot of these days.

Furthermore...
To say that Bill McEwen is not professional is dumb.
Bill McEwen has done more for the Amiga than anyone has in 10 years.
He actually is putting Amiga in a position to make money again, and he is bringing to us the first real product in 10 years.

You have nothing but opinion to back yourself up.
But if you will stand back and look, you will see that I am correct in what I said.

Bill McEwen Rulez!!!

[System]

And even furthermore...

My brother had the great honor of being able to go to one of the shows and shake Bill McEwen's hand.
He met all of the kewl Amiga folks.
Something I've never been able to do.

He got everyone's autograph.
Even Petro's      

I only hope that one day, I will be able to go to one of the shows and meet these great people like my brother did.

And I would be honored...
I SAID I WOULD BE HONORED...

To shake Bill McEwens hand.

So cotton pickin'          THERE!!!

I would also love to meet the Hyperion guys.
And also Fleecy "the mad man" Moss.

[System]

Yeah, whatever.

I'm heading on over to distributers websites now.
And whoever is selling Amithlon right now will never see my buisness again.

If I have to buy AmigaOne and OS4 straight from Amiga Inc. and Eyetech, that's what I will do.

Today's the day to do something about all of this.
I, for one am not going to sit back and watch junk like this happen anymore!

Bye Bye Softhut.com
Bye Bye Compuquick
Bye Bye anyone else who does not stop distribution of Amithlon XL.

Softhut and Compuquick...
I'm letting you know right now!!!

If you do not stop distribution of Amithlon XL, I will never darken your door as a customer again.

And I'm serious.

[System]

This is the letter that has been sent to Softhut.com
It appears that compuquick cannot be reached by email.
That's not my problem.

Let it be known starting December 5th, 2002.
If you do not stop distributing a product called Amithlon or AmigaXL, I will never darken your door again as a customer.

AmigaOne and Amiga OS4 will soon be out, and I will be looking for someone to buy this product from.
If you do not stop distribution of Amithlon and AmigaXL, you will never again receive my services as a customer.

You have been served.

Brad Ray


If you are truly upset about the actions of Haage and Partner, and whoever else is involved, you will show it with your pocketbook.

If you are just full of a bunch of talk, then don't stand up for what is right.
It is your own personal decision.

As for me...
I have had enough of Haage and Partner.
I will never consider buying the project called "Pegasos", or the MorphOS.

I repeat...
You people will never, ever see any of my money if you do not make things right       NOW!!!

Please everyone...
Start emailing these people and let them know that you will not support them if they continue to sell these products.
And also email Haage and Partner and let them know the same.

It's up to us.
And we must act now!!!

[System]

I also just sent an email to Haage and Partner telling them the same.

[System]

I think you're being somewhat childish in your attitude, this kind of hysterical abuse towards distros gives respectable and I might add mature Amiga users a bad reputation.

Yeah, I guess you're right.
Let Haage and Partner nail Bernie to the wall.

Let's just sit back and watch it happen.

I guess I was acting immature, and childish.

Please...
Forgive me.

But then again, it is my right as a citizen of the world to stand up for what is right, and stand against what is wrong.

But then again, I guess that's just wishful thinking too, huh.

You're right.

You are so much smarter than I am.

We'll just do it your way.

Let's just watch Bernie burn.


But not me.
I will keep to my promise.

I've had enough.
and I personally will do what I have to do to help Bernie.

My money stays in my pocket until I can buy from a company who actually has a heart.

That's my right fellow.

That's the way it will stay.

Call me childish if you like, but at least I have the cotton pickin backbone to stand up and do something.

[System]

Amen.

Wisely thought out.

Thanks.

[System]

May I say "SHUTUP!" I know this is bad, but theres no need to try to destroy the rest of what the Amiga has. Just move on!

Sure you may, but I'm going to say it right back.
Shut up yourself buddy.

If you don't like the thread go somewhere else.

We all have a right to say whatever we want to here.
That's why it's called a forum.

I guess you think that if you lay there long enough, everything will get better?
Well, guess what?

It's not going to get any better if people don't stand against it.

If you want to play dead, then go ahead.
But leave everyone else alone.

and I didn't mean to be cruel.
I just wanted to proove a point.

So when I said, "shut up".
I did not really mean it.

[System]

You're an idiot.

and you have no backbone sir.

[System]

@mounatinmyst

Enough!  I guess my earlier requests in the actual forum were not clear enough.  

Let's get something straight here and once again, I am BEGGING YOU to stop and think about this situation.  Neither you, nor I know all the facts in this situation.  No one on this site outside Mr. Frank, Mr. Meyer (sp?), AI, and H&P know what has transpired in this situation.  None of us can say with absolute clarity "who screwed who" where Amithlon is concerned.  I am not calling anyone a liar, I am stating fact.

As such, until we reach such "total consciousness" on our deathbeds, stop trying to stir everyone up.  From what I got out of Bernie's post, he'd simply gotten fed up with all of it to the point where he had to make a decision to walk away.  Not necessarily for reasons of legality or even logic, but for the sake of his sanity.  

After all, as a professional programmer, if he cannot sleep nights over a product that he probably wouldn't make money on (this IS the Amiga market after all), then why bother?  

Trust me....  While I've given up the idea that supporting this "community" would even allow me to break even (an idea I gave up long ago) I truly share his pain.  Some times this hobby just isn't fun any more and anyone who knows me knows that I sympathize with Bernie's feelings of "#### it", but....  

Unlike you, I am objective enough to know that I do not know any of the details in this situation other than "he said, they said".  As such, you don't see me (or most people here) willing to destroy the Amiga retailer market to back any one individual.

"In every story, there are three truths.  The truth you're told, the truth you believe, and the truth that is.. -- Alfred Hitchcock"

[System]

If you would have read a post that I made about 10 minutes ago, you would have seen that I had already  "stopped".

Furthermore...
I don't see where I'm stiring anything up.
I haven't been going around throwing lies at people.

I said in one of my last posts that what I am doing is a personal decision, and I intend to stick with it.

If you read the posts, you will see that I have not said anything about distributors since you posted.

If you are telling me to stop giving my opinion, you might as well ban me now.
I have a right to talk just like you do.

As I said 10 minutes ago, I will not speak much on this anymore, and that's what I mean.

It is not because you are threatening me that I am calming down.
It's because I choose to calm down.

I will not speak against distributors anymore because I choose not to.

I never have taken too kindly for people trying to force me to do things when I'm doing nothing wrong.

And by the way, I appreciate this site as much as the next person wayne.
So thanks for staying around.

 :-D

[System]

It is not because you are threatening me that I am calming down.

I certainly am not trying to threaten you, or anyone else.  All I am doing is calling for reason.  This is a clear case of "he said, she said" and as expected, combatants are lining up on both sides of the ensuing argument.  I don't care either way personally, because I have zero need to emulate a dead operating system with no decent software, but there is no need for gang war, name calling, and violence here.

That goes for everyone included, not just you.

[System]

because I have zero need to emulate a dead operating system with no decent software, but there is no need for gang war, name calling, and violence here.

I appreciate you clearing that up.

I also do not have any need for an emulator.
I hate those things.
I need a real OS to satisfy my needs.

But I hope that everyone here understands that I never meant to start any gang wars.

I never tried to start violence.
I am totally against violence.
If I caused any violence, I appoligize.

The only word that I used against another person, that I remember was "spineless".
That was because I was called an idiot.

Since I am now calm, I will say this...
I'm sorry to the members and guests on this board if I came across as hateful, or violent.

That was not my intention.

I guess I'm just different than most folks in how I express my opinion.

Now it's time to sit back and watch what happens with everything, and I hope that from here on out everything can go smoothly for all parties involved.

and I also add to my post this...

Although emulators are not my cup of tea, and I can't stand them...

That is no disrespect to Bernie.
I think he did a super job on what he was working on, and there isn't any telling what he had in store with the second release.

I never started these threads because I like emulators, but it made me sick about what happened to Bernie.