Quake2 AmigaOS-port finally released

[System]

Hello Wayne!
You wrote:
"This was, and is possible with AmigaDE. The problem is, Amiga Inc is so mired down in the bullshit that has become AmigaOne and AmigaOS4 (and Amithlon, and MOS, and...........) that they have apparently not had time to focus on what they should, and that is to bring us a real, platform-agnostic way to do things."

As I see it Amiga Inc. don't have so much to do with OS4/AOne and are focusing on AmigaDE/AA. So I don't know what you are talking about... Amiga Inc. has not been involved in the development of either AOS4 or AmigaOne... They are working on new deals (getting AmigaDE/AA on new items) raising funds and so on and not letting the ball go out of focus.

/Menthos

[System]

As I see it Amiga Inc. don't have so much to do with OS4/AOne and are focusing on AmigaDE/AA. So I don't know what you are talking about... Amiga Inc. has not been involved in the development of either AOS4 or AmigaOne... They are working on new deals (getting AmigaDE/AA on new items) raising funds and so on and not letting the ball go out of focus.

Sorry, to paraphrase (.mpg not available at the moment) Bill McEwen from his Sacramento speech a couple of months ago:

"I end up spending most of my time every day defending Amiga's trademarks and in-fighting between certain companies instead of concentrating on what we should be."

True, Amiga has had little to do with the physical development of either package (A1/OS4) but... As the owner of the trademarks, licenses, etcetera, they are constantly pulled into these problems by the likes of Hyperion, H&P, Bernie, etc (it's not the fault of a couple of those named).

[System]

Ok, But that (Bill) is just one person... =)

But I don't really know if Bill himself are developing anything? I guess he has the staff to do the developing and him running around trying to keep everything floating (meetings and more meetings).
So I don't see that effecting ADE/AA if AInc just have the funds to continue.

/Menthos

[System]

Ok, But that (Bill) is just one person... =)

I'm not suggesting that Bill does EVERYTHING around there, but anyone will tell you that nothing gets done without Bill's input.  He is, after all, the "benevolent dictator" and from what others tell me, that's a very true statement.

[System]

Nice.

@memory usage: It depends on what the memory is used for. It is impossible to store so much texture, geometry and sound data in less memory - therefor thats perfectly ok. However it must be possible for an OS to use less than 100mb ram right after boot up.

[System]

Around here in Germany Im not aware of a single person using solely an Amiga. Otoh i know a few dozen people who did have one (or still have one for an occasional round of speedball2) but use a windows pc now.

I dont know what the silent majority wants, or even what the silent majority *is*. Those still having an Amiga? Those still activley searching for news? Or those that have left in the meantime but would happily return to "the good old days"?

Personally I hope for AmigaDE - in a few years - it will take time to grow and that should have been known.

Meanwhile AmigaOS 4 is the best that could happen for the active Amigans.

Amithlon will in turn target those that have left and cant/wont spend a serious amount of money - and can additionally raise interest outside the group of people who know Amiga.

Also I dont think OS4 development has detracted from DE. The time it did cost one person to "manage" can come in later as a big help when all works out.