Amiga 600: How to upgrade to WB 3.1?

[andersbm]

And yes, PS: Thanks for the hints about the more "modern" look. I'll definately look into that :-)

[andersbm]

DH0: Workbench, 400MB
DH1: Work (music, graphics programs, whatever), 1700MB
DH2: Games, 1900MB

This keeps all your partitions smaller than 2GB, and your formatted capacity within the 4GB space.  This is the "safe" option, feel free to go bigger if you want the "risky" option.  All of these settings can be changed within HDToolbox on your 3.1 Install disk.

*disclaimer - I'm sure someone will come along and tell you different in about a minute.  

SUPERB!

I'm only going to use the A600 for games (for a start at least), so going for new file formats etc. is just waaaay over my head! ;-) Hve done the partitions now and hope to boot the install disk succesfully in a min :-)

[andersbm]

 All of these settings can be changed within HDToolbox on your 3.1 Install disk.

*disclaimer - I'm sure someone will come along and tell you different in about a minute.  

ARGH! Just ran into a problem. Partioned the HD in three as you suggested. However, first of all my WB 3.1. does not want to boot. It simply opens WB 3.1. and has a disk image on the "desktop". Secondly, the three partions are all "NDOS", so i cannot open, read or write to them.

How do I fix this? :-)

all best
Anders

[andersbm]

After the partioning, reboot your system (booting off the 3.1 Install disk), then format each partition and give it a name from within Workbench - click on the partition (probably named "NDOS" or some gibberish name), then right-click and choose "Format" from the menu.  Once each partition is formatted then you should be able to run the install script on the disk, and install onto your first partition (DHO) which should be the one made bootable in HDToolbox.

Can you tell I've done this a lot lately?  

Ha ha ha - I REALLY appreciate that you have done it a lot lately ;-)

Just finished formatting the smallest partition ("WB"). Will now continue with the two large ones ("Games" and "Programs"). Will be back in a few days ;-) ;-)

And thanks for all the help so far. Advices like these makes me so much more fond of my Amiga 600 :-D

Anders

[andersbm]

After the partioning, reboot your system (booting off the 3.1 Install disk), then format each partition and give it a name from within Workbench - click on the partition (probably named "NDOS" or some gibberish name), then right-click and choose "Format" from the menu.  Once each partition is formatted then you should be able to run the install script on the disk, and install onto your first partition (DHO) which should be the one made bootable in HDToolbox.

Can you tell I've done this a lot lately?  

Maaaaaan! It worked SO well! After the "clean slate" installation Workbench 3.1. is now in operation. Seems smooth and damn fast! So once again: Thanks a lot for your kind help :-D

As I mentioned earlier, I will mostly be using the Amiga for gaming. I have WHD Load, which I'm going to install later today. Also downloading Killer Gorilla as many people have recommended it to me.

But one question: If I want to download and install some of the new skins, graphics, fonts and icons that you suggested in an earlier post, should I do this NOW or can I do it after installing WHD Load and other software? (I guess my question really is: Will the installation of the new skins etc. become more of a hassle if I have a lot of games and programs installed already?).

Cheers
Anders

[andersbm]

No need to worry about the order you do things in. There are exceptions when it comes to patches, hacks, etc., but bringing them up now will probably only serve to confuse you. How full or empty your drive is doesnt influence these things anyway.
For now just install what you'd like and deal with those "hiccups" when/if you get to them

Things like skinning, new icons, etc. are tiny (a few megabytes), so there'll be no problems.

Thanks a lot for good advice :-)

It's also a matter of "the style of the Amiga look" ;-) As much as I would like better graphcis and colours, there also some nice oldschool love for the old original Workbench look :-D

I'll start with installing the essentials (pretty musch just WHD Load and Killer Gorilla for me), and will then return to add on nicer looks and features in the future.

[andersbm]

Good plan, glad ya got it working!

Thanks a bunch man!

Already ran into my first problem however :-(

Did you ever try installing WHDload on a Amiga 600 running WB 3.1.?

I'm getting the strange error that "Can't find tool Installer". Now, when I look in C: , it's there! Also I installed EasyADF from the floppy with no problem what so ever. So yeah, the Installer is there.

How come that WHDload does not want to install?

Hope to hear from someone soon.

All best
Anders

[andersbm]

Try checking the icon tooltypes for the installation script.  Is its default tool set to C:Installer?

You may also want to update to the latest version of the installer tool for 3.1, here:

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/TechDetails3.htm

(7th down on the list under "Component")

Thanks a lot Mike :-) The default tool is set to "Installer", so I don't think the problem is here.

I'll try to download the newer version of the Installer tomorrow. Hopefully that will fix it! :-)

[andersbm]

A default 3.1 install puts the tool Install in C: but not Installer. They're different

@Paul81: Ha ha ha! See this is what I absolutely love about the Amiga and Workbench: When you get advice like the good one you just posted to me, you initially think "no way! It can't be that simple". BUT IT IS! Your advice worked perfectly and as @Matt_H wrote above, I did indeed have "Install", but no "Installer".

I copied the Installer from my 3.1. install floppy and VOILA! Now WHD Load is installed and I'm downloading Killer Gorilla and Retroplays massive packs. Looking forward to see just how many (or how few!) games will actually play on my Amiga 600 ;-)

Bottom line is: Thanks for all the kind help!

2 questions:

- Why is there a tool called "Install" and not "Installer"?
- I need to find a good unzip program to unzip Retroplay and Killer Gorillas WHD Load packs. Any recommendations?

Cheers from Copenhagen
Anders

[andersbm]

Try checking the icon tooltypes for the installation script.  Is its default tool set to C:Installer?

You may also want to update to the latest version of the installer tool for 3.1, here:

http://lilliput.amiga-projects.net/TechDetails3.htm

(7th down on the list under "Component")

By the good advice of @Paul81 and @Mike_H I found a fix to my problem. Simply copied the "Installer" from my WB 3.1 Install floppy to my C: folder. It works! :banana:

So I'm aaaaall good now

But just out of curiosity: The link you gave me have some interesting thoughts on how to make 3.1 act more like 3.9. Have you tried these installs? Recommendable?

:pint: from Copenhagen
Anders

[andersbm]

"Install" is an AmigaDOS command that writes ("installs") a boot block to a formatted device, so that for example a floppy disk is made bootable. I've always thought it's got a pretty strange name, considering that most other AmigaDOS command names are pretty logical.

Aahhh, I see. Was just about to write that it makes sense - but no, you are absolutely right: Considering what "Install" does, it's a pretty weird name :-D