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restoration opinion
« on: May 22, 2013, 10:02:13 PM »
How do you guys feel about repainting all or part of a classic? What if "retr0bright" doesn't do the trick on a particular area/unit ?

For me, if I was restoring a unit for my personal use, I'd do the lids, chassis...but never the bezel, or never where the metallic stickers (or other such stickers are. I prefer not to paint over a classic, but if restoring for authentic looks, I am sure it's had to have been done.

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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2013, 05:30:35 AM »
I think you need more A4000s :P


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..........^__the TAED is not needed.
Hydrogen Peroxide attacks double bonds donating an electron to form a single bond and possibly the destruction of that part of the molecule.  Latex is as dam close to natural rubber (which is elastic because of the double bonds), just as colors are "colored" by the excitation of double bonds.  The peroxide will eat through double bonds and you will do better with vinyl.  

In the states, "Sally's Beauty Supply" or Amazon carry these and, for me, Amazon was cheaper.



You will notice the Saran Wrap in the background; to prevent drying out of the goop, a good occlusive plastic wrap will make you less likely to have to replace the goo during the day.

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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2013, 05:44:41 AM »
speaking of restoration, what do you guys know about the original feet ? If I needed to make/buy them for instance ? does anyone have pics of OEM feet on big boxes ?

@ danbeaver, I see you have a few big boxes, are they your fave looks wise only vs wedges ? Never liked wedges after I saw the 1000, but I prefer the wedge/breadbox style on C= stuff.
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2013, 11:07:21 PM »
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Regarding Retrobrite.

I've heard you really need to clear coat after finishing the restoration.  Otherwise the discoloration can come back and with a vengeance.


I read Merlin's take on that clear coat with UV uptake, and that is even better than the idea I had of just clear coating it. Actually surprised that post "retr0brite" isn't a sticky like "retr0bright".
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2013, 11:29:51 PM »
From my researching so far this is my reply to your specific concerns.

1. You won't die, some people are nervous around chemistry, just like people that are afraid to fly. You just have to use common sense. From what I read, it can be possible to overheat the solution and cause it to work much faster than intended. When it works much faster, and you don't take it out soon enough it can cause "blooming" (whitish discolored areas)

2. See "blooming" above. If you leave it in too long,  make it stronger than recommended, or use 700 UV lamps, put the lamps way to close thereby overheating the solution (this also depends on the surrounding temp of your enviornment).

3. It does come back, and I am sure that is indeed angry and wanting some vengeance indeed. Using a clearcoat stops this in 2 ways:

Discoloration can't come back because it can't get a ride from oxygen. Discoloration doesen't have a car and is always mooching rides off oxygen and UV to go to the comic book store and over to your house to get revenge. Clearcoating puts up one huge detour / road closed sign and Oxygen gets lost (no GPS). The UV inhibitor keeps UV from seeing "where discoloration be at", thereby preventing UV and discoloration from going in and "Jackin' yo Bromine bro'".

No vengeance and no jackin' means discoloration is stuck at home in mom's basement being bored. ;)




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Ive heard horror stories about this retrobrighting. Some telling me ill die if I try, some telling me it'll go blotchy and now this telling me it'll come back with a vengeance. With all this in mind I've bought a swcond hand case in good condition on ebay and a brand new keyboard. That should do the trick. :)

Will post any pictures I get of the old monstrosity vs the new gleaming case.  :)
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2013, 11:32:39 PM »
You should have made that lazy ass snake hold it instead of hanging it up there. The snake could of at least offered to help...just sayin'

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I did mine in the winter (no sunlight), just set everything up in my shower and hung a large UV-B light that I have for my snake about a foot over the mess and left it over night, LOL.  ;)
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2013, 11:36:23 PM »
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We dont use sun beds. We're all just miserable. Might do the keyboard when I can be bothered. Looks like an old c64 keyboard. Haha.


We have a new commercial over here as of last night that says something about something and one of the lines is :whiter than an englishman." It then goes on to show a bunch of pasty white guys with sunburned forearms :D

That said, skin cancer = bad anyhow, better to be pasty.
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2013, 11:39:24 PM »
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I see, that's why you have Hobbits in the UK, from the rickets (lack of Vitamin D)!


They  keep limes in their filthy pocketsizz for just such an emergency.
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2013, 12:31:36 AM »
LOL, you know me, always getting my 18th century diseases mixed up...

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That is for Vitamin C a lack of which causes Scurvy. A condition that forces you to live in Hull.
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2013, 03:01:29 AM »
Yeah, and we still have TB and cholera....I wasn't being technical :P I see I shall have to be more technical with you sir.. :D

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I8th century?  Hardly, quite common where there is rampant starvation -- Hollywood starlets for example, and Sub-Saharian  Africa.

But back to Amigas.
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2013, 06:02:01 AM »
I did not mean US personally...you in MN also ?
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2013, 10:24:14 PM »
As far as the feet questiongoes, I am mulling doing a 2000 all commodore and as close to 100 percent period as I can get one, you know like a "stock" resto
on cars.

While the C= stuff had loads of aftermarket stuff, kind of neat to see an all C= machine (historical context) flaws and all.

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The original feet?  For replacements the 1" rubber or felt circles at Wally World work fine. Online you can get the square black rubber feet (Jameco, MCM Electronics).  The A2000's used cork (never looked for them), the others are all black rubber. The smaller stuff used clear-ish rubber (Lowes).  The A4000T used an adjustable stand -- only The Lord and the case maker (Enlight) have a clue. I use felt so it slides easier to get to.

Boxes vs wedges: I have some wedges, but just try to find stories of a moderately expanded A1200 (or minimally expanded A600) and they read like Frankenstein's Monster. Yes I like the C128D, but still have my 1983 C64..
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Re: restoration opinion
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2013, 12:34:35 AM »
I prefer ACE myself they have cool one off items !
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