Apollo Team announces the Vampire V4

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So the standalone will basically be an Amiga with non of the expansion slots.  What is the benefit of this hardware emulation over much cheaper faster software emulation ?
 
 Just trying to work out the point of the standalone

[jj]

latency and timing, it's the only point of using an fpga for emulation rather than a program running on a general purpose computer.

The gates in an fpga are dedicated to a particular job, so they can monitor your joystick inputs and run code and display video simultaneously. An emulator on a general purpose computer multiplexes all it's gates, so it will be doing different tasks at different times.

Some LCD TV upscalers have terrible latency too, so you should compare it to an Amiga on a CRT. If you can't tell the difference (and some people cannot) then you don't need to spend the extra money.

There is also the cool factor, but agai
n if you don't feel that then it's not for you.

Some people hate emulators running on a general purpose computer for not being authentic, for other reasons than timing and latency, which is more of a religious thing. Using FPGA for emulation is no real different, if the original hardware had analogue quirks (like undocumented behaviour changed based on temperature) then an FPGA is going to be just as bad at emulating that as software on a general purpose computer.

Thanks for a reasoned response.  So go for an accelerator if you want the geninue-ish amiga feel.  As I guess these are quite far off in compatibility ?

[jj]

They will always find something to complain about.
In fact I want to go on record now complaining because the kitchen sink is missing!

Hoe is your Wii AOS4 port going ?

[jj]

Because if Gunnar's psyche (or aura) had a smell, it would probably be a mixture of fried electrical wiring and burnt cat hair. .

This is one of the funniest things I have read in awhile.

[jj]

Gunnar may not be making much money now, but he has always been clear that he wants to market his softcore to the embedded market and that he makes decisions based on that rather than every single piece of 30 year old Amiga software. It's in his interest to appeal to the type of people who will evangelise his core.

The friction comes in because there are enough people who will be happy to see vampire as an expensive whdload card, with the added promise of the Amiga having completely new development that will make it viable against PC's. They fight off anyone who tries to get FPU/MMU on the table because they are scared that it will upset Gunnar. Who sees this support and has no reason to expand his base, because it's enough.

Which cuts out software that would actually quite cool to run. Because it's closed source, because of the embedded licensing, then Gunnar is able to exert whatever control he wants.

Hopefully someone else will produce a core for the vampire that does appeal to me.

 is the speed all about the core or is some of the underlying fgpa.  Could minimig or one of the others be converted to run on this hardware ?
 
 Do any of them have MMU/FPU ?

[jj]

I hate Indivision ! It sucks, Vampire HDMI out is much better...

:roflmao::roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

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Quote:
      Originally Posted by Niding
 -I enjoy being able to run Workbench RTG/Thru HDMI without Indivision.

 
 

Why do you hate Indivision?

I do not know anyone who would infer that, from that sentence.  I think it would be safe to assume that using the vampire is a better/more enjoyable experience, not that the person hates Indivision.
 
 That is some truly impressive purposeful misinterpretation of that sentence.
 
 The best you could infer is that using Indiviison  with HDMI is not enjoyable,  which is a country mile away from hate