Excitement about NatAmi

[jj]

Gentlemen, a spot of calm if you please.
 
Until I have a working NatAmi in my grubby paws, as far as I am concerned it's all speculative. On that point, a modern implementation of the hardware, if it lives up to the promise of being able to utilise the full DDR2 memory bandwidth would seem to qualify as much, much faster than the original. However, that's as much as can be said. Putting numbers on it at the moment, no matter how educated a guess, remains a guess.

 
Karlos be careful, how dare you say its just a guess, its just moving memory.   Did you fail maths in school etc etc

[jj]

Anyway lets remember that winning an argument on the internet and special olympics etc

[jj]

Theorectical maximums are the only thing worth comparing because all the inefficiencies you mention also apply to the old hardware. Just by adding buffers, yarube has made the TG68 core run like an '040...yet I'm not allowed to cite that as co-oberating evidence? Natami bus is about 4x faster than MikeJ's board directly due to DDR2 vs. DDR1. It's fpga is also superior. These are facts.
 
One of the factors that helps make full '020's, '030's etc... faster is cache. The '050 core is getting, iirc, 32k of data and instruction cache. This is also what yarube did to the TG68 core. It's not rocket science to people who know what they are doing. Gunnar and Thomas have real world industry experience. I see too many people here belittling their work. It annoys me, especially when some of those people are clearly threatened by the product because they are a developer for an OS who's market could be undermined by it's success. Other people, **cough**the_leander**cough**, just aren't too bright.

 
Which people and which OS.  AROS or MorphOS or AmigaOS4 would be undermined by Natami?

[jj]

Ahhh the good ol asphyo w**k

[jj]

I love how definite everyhting is in your world.
 
All people are asking is for you to stop spouting these figures as facts.  They are not.  They very well be, but at the moment you have no proof or first hand experience to backup thse claims.
 
All you have to say is, the blitter could be 100x faster and poeple will be happy and except that.

[jj]

There is really no hope is there.....................

[jj]

What if I were to say cock socket ?

[jj]

Sorry. Just had to say Bacon purse,
 
But back to the thread topic.
 
In answer to the topic , no not really that excited to be honest.
 
Moved on from classic

[jj]

Already Hyperions is working on adding multi-core support to OS4...

 
Are they ? Have you got a source for this ?

[jj]

Did you not here of an event called Amiwest?

 
No! what's that ? Some sort of rodeo ?

[jj]

First maybe you can state your source for your earlier comment about Natami costing as much as SAM?

 
I don't think it was an offical source, was in a thread on here, might have even bee this one.  Really can't be arsed to check.
 
But I would have thought it would cost at least that

[jj]

That might be where I read it, thanks.  The cost would seem about right.  But as I said I didnt think was an offical source

[jj]

Did some Google searches, surprised to see one of my games, "Warhammer" (or "Wowhammer";-) has multi core support. Once the consoles go multi core, I think that is when you will see the last of the new games coming out without being designed for multi core. Unreal Engine 4 is for the day when we have "massively multi-core processor" according to Epic's Mark Rein.
 
Anyone remember the days Amiga folks use to rag on Window users for not using a multi tasking OS? My, how times have changed as hardware evolved. I know, just use Linux and be happy it can do the grunt work in a SMP environment.

 
I thought both the 360 and PS3 were multi-core ?

[jj]

Yeah I know when it comes to the PS3 is a quesion of debate about cores.  But the 360 is 100% multicore
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_hardware