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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« on: April 13, 2002, 12:19:44 PM »
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If you want to buy an A1G3SE without OS4, go ahead. All that's going to happen is that any officially endorsed product will be *enabled* to run OS4.x


Every HW with the "enable AOS4 ROM" will have to be bundled with
AOS4 and a licence is to be paid.

If Joe-MOS buys a Pegasos this summer he doesn't want to pay AInc.
If  by the end of the year he decides that AOS4 is the better choice he
won't be able to buy it for his Pegasos.

So yes AInc is going the Apple road.
BPlan/MOS seem to go it too.

This way the community will be splitted and its very likely both sides
will fail.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #1 on: April 13, 2002, 02:02:29 PM »
Hi Ivan

Its not about buying AOS4 but about paying a licence on HW that has nothing
to do with AInc. The price for a full AOS4 on CSPPC is ~100Euro according
to Vesalia. That price would be fair for the Pegasos-version.

AInc didn't help developing the Pegasos and they didn't help the
Taiwanese developing the TeronCX/Agimmesomenumbers.

Eyetech decided to sell their product under the AOne name and therefore
have to pay $xxx to AInc.

BPlan decided to sell their board mainly to industrial costumers and a few
Amiga-fans. They don't want/need the AOne-name so why should they pay?
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else
 

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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #2 on: April 13, 2002, 02:06:36 PM »
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so I don't see how less than a third of this market could survive on its own


So you really think it would be more than 33% of the current user-base
 that gone buy a A1/AOS4 ?

I think you are in for a suprise.

1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #3 on: April 13, 2002, 03:38:32 PM »
/me being anonymous

Damn auto log-out !
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #4 on: April 13, 2002, 04:24:45 PM »
Merlancia ?
LOL !!!

Have you seen their prieces ? Or the dates on their homepage ?

BtW: The partnership between BPlan and Merlancia lies in ruins. Both
sides are saying they still have to get some money from other side.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
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5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #5 on: April 13, 2002, 04:53:09 PM »
Shark ?  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

Sorry but the Shark is pure vapor atm.
Ben said he didn't have one and its not clear how you will be able
to access the Amiga-mb or Zorro-card.

This will need special drivers and those have to be written by ... who ?

Hyperion wil focuss on the core and than on the A1 leaving the Shark-
support in the future.

BtW: How do you know the Shark will be much cheaper than a A1?

Currently there is far more SW developed for MOS than for AOS4.

Emulation could also work the other way round.
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4. Wait for someone else to do it.
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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #6 on: April 13, 2002, 07:39:47 PM »
8 months ago the A1 (Predator+ based) and AOS4 (H&P) were vapor.
A1.5 and HyperOS4.0 are two completly different products.

MorphOS-SW currently in development:
Papyrus (complete Office-Suite)
Motionstudio
The Thendic-Stuff

AOS4-SW currently in development:
Maybe a few a Hyperion-Ports
???
1. Make an announcment.
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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #7 on: April 13, 2002, 08:16:17 PM »
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I didn't say A1 and OS4 were the same product.


Nor did i  :-)

I just stated that current HW and SW has nothing in common with
what should have been released in last November.

About the user-base:

Petros Power-Computing has sold quite a few Amigas to Indian
TV-Stations and so on. Now he is supporting MophOS/Pegasos.

If German users are put to the choice of A1+AOS4 or Pegasos+MorphOS
this is what would happen (IMHO):

30% Pegasos
25% A1
45% leave me alone with your PPC-crap

And don't forget that the german market has a huge impact.
1. Make an announcment.
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Re: Executive Update - Amiga Status Announcement
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2002, 09:04:02 AM »
@Alkemyst

Wanna know the difference between AInc and Apple (or C=) ?

Apple develops and  builds their maschines at their own risk and cost.

In ower 2 years AInc hasn't spend a single cent into new HW or the "classic" OS.

They gave AOS4 to Hyperion and want some money for the 3.1 licence -> fine !

They want some money from Eyetech for the AOne-name -> o.k.

They want money from every AOS4-capable board -> no way !

This is not about piracy ! And this definitly not about quality ("AInc" and
"quality" in the same sentence, what a joke!). It's about money!

BtW: only one week ago all that was needed for AOS4 on Pegasos
was a dev-board + doku.

That has to be enough !
If Hyperion want to sell as much copies as possible they have to
support it (when its available) as it will probraly sell just as good as
the A1. This is NOT BPlans job.
1. Make an announcment.
2. Wait a while.
3. Check if it can actually be done.
4. Wait for someone else to do it.
5. Start working on it while giving out hillarious progress-reports.
6. Deny that you have ever announced it
7. Blame someone else