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Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« on: March 22, 2016, 05:19:51 PM »
OK, once again thanks to Thomas for putting me in the right path to continue with the configuration of X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road.

The X-Surf 100 board and Rapid Road are installed inside the A3000 and I can see a white light coming from Rapid Road.

I have installed Poseidon and launched Prefs/Trident where the status shows as online



Trident - Rapid Road photo 20160322_101129_zpsoj0diav5.jpg

But plugging a USB stick doesn't do anything. I'm reading the instructions in the leaflet that came with Rapid Road but that there's no troubleshoot guide.

Any help will be very welcome. The same to help me to get online with the X-Surf 100.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2016, 06:47:35 PM »
@matt3K

Tried with USB mouse and no luck either :(
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2016, 07:11:05 PM »
Quote from: Acill;806158
Do yourself a favor and buy Roadshow.  It comes with a script for the xsurf 100. You basically install it,  move the config over as the docs say and reboot.

As for Poseidon be sure you arw using version 4.5 and launch prefs. Tou need to also open a cli and type the command to attach the ports as mentioned in the docs,  save the config in prefs and reboot. The dot next to online should be green.


Strangely enough the button was green yesterday before the Boing Bag updates that I made this morning. What could have happened?
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2016, 07:50:46 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806164
One more thing - is something wrong with the color on your monitor?  That "online" indicator should be green, not black.  (of course, maybe it's just my screen here, lol.)


The light (button) was green yesterday but today after the BB updates it is not....????
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2016, 07:52:32 PM »
Quote from: Acill;806158
Do yourself a favor and buy Roadshow.  It comes with a script for the xsurf 100. You basically install it,  move the config over as the docs say and reboot.

As for Poseidon be sure you arw using version 4.5 and launch prefs. Tou need to also open a cli and type the command to attach the ports as mentioned in the docs,  save the config in prefs and reboot. The dot next to online should be green.


The instructions for X-Surf 100 say that Rapidshow would not work with this card.....???
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2016, 07:55:59 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806163
When you plug in a USB device it should give you some kind of notification on this screen (see attached screenshots).

Are you getting anything in the log at all?  You may want to start with reinstalling Poseidon from Jen's site, now that you've got all the BB's and other stuff installed.

Note that I've found some devices that just don't work at all - one particular model of USB mouse from Microsoft that's common around my office, amusingly enough.  But Dell, HP, other brands of mice and keyboards should all work fine, and flash drives / external storage devices, once you get FAT95 installed & configured.  :)

Did you connect the auxiliary power cable?


The card did not include any auxiliary power cable. RR is just plug in the X-SURF 100 and the network seated in the Zorro card. The light in the RRshines brightly white.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2016, 09:22:17 PM »
I'm done reinstalling Poseidon and I'm sure that is version 4.5, but still it reads "on" but no green light.

I'm positive that yesterday before the BB updates, it was green.

These are some pictures of what Scout has found too:






Is there any other way to check if the X-Surf 100 & RR are OK?
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2016, 09:57:37 PM »
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So what you're saying is, when you plug in any USB device, you're getting absolutely no activity at all in the logs?

http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=806163&postcount=8


nada, zero...

This is a picture of my card showing signs of being alive
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2016, 10:32:50 PM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806180
Looking at the manual, it's also saying you should use the additional power connector:




Light on the RapidRoad is definitely white, right?  It looks red in your photo...


AFAIK not much Amiga "Scout-like" software can really detect the RapidRoad (and other software mis-detects the X-Surf 100 as some generic serial board), but what do you see in these two programs?


The light in RR is white; the red light comes from the LAN connection.

This is a SnoopDOS report showing a few things failing in Trident:


I hope this helps to identify the problem(s).

Thank you Oldsmobile_Mike
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2016, 11:05:59 PM »
@Oldsmobile_Mike
Here is a picture of a different installation in an A4000 from the blog of fitzstevens

http://www.fitzstevesamigaworld.co.uk/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/P1080409.JPG

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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2016, 01:12:00 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806190
SACC has a good point. Is that a Zorro 2 memory board? Have you tried with all other cards removed?


No, I haven't tried with all the other cards removed.

What can you tell me from the error messages (Fail) shown in SnoopDOS?
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2016, 01:16:15 AM »
Quote from: matt3k;806192
Roadshow works great with the xsurf 100.  No issues at all for me on my 3000 with an 060.

I would bet the controller isn't enabled on Poseidon.  I had fits to get that working.  Delete and manually connect the rapidroadxs100usb.device and save config.

If that doesn't fix it I bet it is the 3640 which has a known issue with rapid road.

The only other option is a flaky power supply.  Check to see if you have black on the connector to the mother board.


Could you please explain how to do this: "I had fits to get that working. Delete and manually connect the rapidroadxs100usb.device and save config.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2016, 02:10:44 AM »
Quote from: SACC-guy;806186
What buster version do you have?
Did you try the zorro2 jumper?
Are you going to use ad power via a 4 pin  cable?

What is that memory card below the xsurf?

In Poseidon prefs... Scroll down the messages as what is the newest?


Did you try the zorro2 jumper? Could you please tell me hpw to do this? Change the jumper to Zorro II?

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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2016, 03:05:33 AM »
Quote from: Acill;806202
After talking with you on the phone and discovering you have an A3640 in your A3000 you NEED to change the Xsurf-100 into ZII mode. The jumper is easy to spot on the board.

The RapidRoad has issues with an A3640. Here is the thread where it was discovered. I'm glad I was ale to get the Ethernet portion working for you at least over the phone!

http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=75396&highlight=rapidroad


Thank you Acill. This is my first post from my A3000 using IBrowse, and yes, it directly downloaded IBrowse in my 3000.

Thank you all of you who have been helping me in my journey with a "real" Amiga.

Now, if someone can give a little bit of help in modifying the jumper(s). I have never touch jumpers in a computer board or card.
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Re: Now..help getting X-Surf 100 & Rapid Road to work
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2016, 03:19:53 AM »
Quote from: Oldsmobile_Mike;806207
Just one jumper, clearly marked.  See the pic I added to my post right above yours.  ;)


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