Help installing DENEB card in A3000 desktop

[WeiXing3D]

I just received a DENEB card with two USB ports and I will be tryingt to install it in my A3000 desktop this weekend. The instructions are very poor or written for computer hardware gurus, not a rookie like me.

Is there any place where I can find a guide with easier and friendlier step by step installation guide? A video in You Tube would also be awesome.

I was told I will need a jumper, but I don't even know, what type, where to buy, and where to use it.

I'm doing this as a hobby and I want to learn, but I don't want to fry my beloved Amiga in the process.


I forgot to ask: What is a Poseidon USB stack (is it software), where can I find it?

Thanks in advance for any help.

[WeiXing3D]

All the software that you need is already on the deneb card, you just have to change a jumper on the card and there will popup a new icon on your desctop just open that up and all you need is inside.

Just remember to remove the jumper when you have taken all the files out.
(do NOT change the jumpers when the amiga is ON)

I have marked this photo so you can see where to put the jumper, the top marking is just to show what you are marking for



And this is how you place it inside of your amiga

Kawazu, I know this is going to sound stupid, but I don't even know what jumpers are and where can I find or buy them, because I didn't get any with the card. Is there anyway you can PM a link to see your pictures a liitle bit bigger?

[WeiXing3D]

A jumper is a smal plastik squar that have some small metal pices inside.

The jumpers job is to connect two points together, like the points i marked. You have a top row of pins and a bottomrow, you just place the jumper on top of the pins so it connects the top with the bottom.

Somthing like this.

Could you please post a bigger picture showing where and how to place the jumper(s)? Sorry to trouble you. And many thanks to you and all others for the support.

[WeiXing3D]

More pics on jumpers so you get a hang of it

This is very cool. I have clear now what a jumper is, looks like and what is for? But I can't figure out where to put it yet? Is only one or two?

What do you mean above by jump first and then remove the jumper after installing?

[WeiXing3D]

Think of the two pins as a switch. If no jumper is connected, the switch is OFF, but if a jumper is connected, the switch is ON.
So what he means is that you first turn a function ON, and then turn it OFF by removing the jumper.

BTW. I don't think it is a stupid question, there was a time when I was wondering about the same myself.

Can you show me or point to me where to put the jumper? Thanks

[WeiXing3D]

The other picture i posted that i marked in the lower corner.
Now compare that old picture to this.



At the point i marked they have placed a jumper on top of those two pins, its not hard, you have two holes and two pins that goes into them you cant do it wrong as long as you place them on the two pints i have marked.

Kawazu, I will be receiving the jumpers I ordered from amigakit next week. I only have one more question: Should I leave the case of the Amiga open exposing the Deneb board, while I connect and turn on the system, so that I can download the software and applications? Then remove the jumper when finished and close the case?

[WeiXing3D]

@ Kawazu

Belive it or not, it wasn't until today, and after 2 weeks after placing my order with Amigakit, that I received my jumpers. So I have a coupe of questions before installing my Deneb card this weekend:

1. What is the correct way to connect the two USB adapter cables (the ones attached to the plate) to the pcb? Do the metal contacts in the black plastic connectors face up or down? How can I tell what is the right position? Someone else in this forum told me that I have to be extremely careful when connecting those 2 cables, or I can fry the pcb.

2. About the jumpers. It seems in your picture that the pins that I will jump are the first two ones from right to left facing toward the daugther board, right? And is the jumper placed perpendicular to the axis of the jumper board, on top of the first two pins?

If you could please send either a small hand made drawing or a close-up picture. In any casde any help you can give me will be fully appreciated.

All the software that you need is already on the deneb card, you just have to change a jumper on the card and there will popup a new icon on your desctop just open that up and all you need is inside.

Just remember to remove the jumper when you have taken all the files out.
(do NOT change the jumpers when the amiga is ON)

I have marked this photo so you can see where to put the jumper, the top marking is just to show what you are marking for



And this is how you place it inside of your amiga

[WeiXing3D]

Can these updates be uploaded after I finish installation, removed jumper and closed unit's case?

deneb has actually three ports, two internal to connect with a cable extension to a free rear expansion slot. and one external mounted directly on the pcb. you have to be very careful to connect the cables right way around, otherwise you might fry your deneb. also be careful with the external port, while you cant misconnect the cable it is quite fragile, you should place much pressure on it.  

you can download current version of poseidon (4.4) right here:
http://www.platon42.de/index2.html
the instalation is well documented and automated. read the guide.

while at it you can download the last firmware for your deneb:
http://www.e3b.de/usb/firm/DENEB_V11.lzh
check what version you have before the upgrade.

what concerns the jumper. i dont know what you mean. jumper is jumper, usually they are found laying around.
i can get you more extensive help when im back with my hardware.

[WeiXing3D]

Today I finally connected my DENEB card and jumped it as per above installation instructions. I got a couple of green lights coming up steady in the board, but nothing is popping up on my WB to allow me to finish installation (download software).

Am I missing something? How can I download the required software from the board?

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[WeiXing3D]

Check that the icon isn't off the visible screen area.

In my case, I first installed the software off a clean WB3.1 install and the actuall Deneb disk icon was off the screen below the visible area.  I had to scroll down to find it (or alternatively refresh your icons into columns).

You were so right. I didn't notice it the first time, so I scrolled down and ther it was. Thanks for the advice.

[WeiXing3D]

Thanks Xanxi. And where can I get one of those?

I also suggest that you look after this internal USB hub http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/nzxt_iu01_internal_usb_expansion/

I'm using this in my A2000 with my Deneb to power all my USB devices from the PSU instead of draining power through the zorro port and the Deneb lines. It protects the Deneb and gives enough juice for any power hungry devices such as external hard drive or CD. My front USB bay is connected on this.

[WeiXing3D]

Now, that I'm done with the h/w installation and struggling to make the USB ports to work. I downloaded everything during installation of the card, removed the jumper and closed the computer case, but I'm now sitting down not knowing what to do next to start using this expensive thing.

I was told I need to run Trident from the prefs drawer so I did that just to find an error message saying " Failed to open muimaster.library. This application requires MUI!

Can someone give me some guidance on how to get this DENEB USB controller working? BTW, I'm using Workbench 3.9. Thanks in advance for any help.

[WeiXing3D]

This is what you need.
http://aminet.net/util/libs/mui38usr.lha

Thanks. I found that, but I can't make it fit in one floppy to port it to my A3000, because the file is too big.

Any suggestions?

[WeiXing3D]

Un-lha the mui archive then delete all the demos and locales then re-lha it so the archive fits a floppy. You should be able to do this on a PC with the unZip utility, at least mine handles lha files easily

I'm using MOS running in a Mac Mini to download and manipulate downloads. How do I re-ha the rest of files to in fit in a floppy?

[WeiXing3D]

All,

This is my technological dilemma:huh:
As I have explained, I have installed and extracted all files from a DENEB card in my A3000, configured with an internal (adapted and no modifications were necessary) CF Card Reader (from Mechware) and one floppy drive. I have a 2GB cf card mounted in a PCMCIA card adapter with Workbench 3.9 mounted on it, and serving as my booting HD.

Then I have an A1200, also equipped with a PCMCIA card reader, 66GB HDD (with 3 partitions) and finally, a MOS 3.0 equipped Mac Mini (I have a multiple firmat card reader working with my MOS computer).

My dilemma is how to combine or use these 3 technologies, to bring muimaster.library to my A3000. I tried to copy the downloaded (from my MOS computer) file in lha format from a CF card using the PCMCIA adapter with WB3.9 in my A3000, but I guess that I may need to finish some configuring here too, since when I swapped the card: First, I get a mssg saying that I need to replace WB39 back in the unit, and if I cancel that, and insert the cf card with my muimaster file, I get a mssg saying that my dh0: (I guess it refers to my PCMCIA mounted unit) is unassigned and it's ghostly.

So, you experts out there...what kind I do to break this vicious cycle which doesn't let me finish the installation of my DENEB and bring life to my A3000?

Does it make any sense?