What is best for video editing?

[leirbag28]

@iamaboringperson

The EASIEST way!

Get a Cyberhome DVD recorder!  only $99 and it records great.

But if you want to preserve at the utmost highest quality............get a Digital8 or MiniDV video Camera with S-Video input......it can record into the Digital Tapes and captures the best quality!  then if need be you can transfer through FireWire to a MAc or PC and Burn DVD..............this method will get you much hiogher quality, than if you just recorded straight onto a DVD recorder like the one I mentioned.

NEVER EVER EVER use a PC capture card for PC MAc or AMiga, if you want the highest quality possible.  NEVER!

THat said.....after your done.you can always transfer the Video to your Amiga and play around with it to see the quality.  BUt TRUST me.......the method I mentioned is the best possible for consumers.

DV cameras are Real cheap.  I sold my SONY TRV 330 for $150!

if you think of the little work required to record onto DV tape, then you will realise the value of a DV camera with S-Video inputs.

[leirbag28]

@Tigger

Judt because something is Digital, does not mean its better....many times Analog is wayyyy better.............example.............Laser Disk (Analog) looks bettter than VCD (Digital)

Also DV is better than DVD...DVD is higher compressed.



@jose
Your method would work a step up from the one I mentioned because its Direct FIREWIRE no loss throught the DV compression.



@Iamaboringperson
YOu dont have to want a camera.......DONT look at it that way!  look at it as a Digital VCR.......dont bother with the Camera side of it..........There is NO Cheaper method than this, at this High Quality.

No matter what anyone says...PC's give the worst results on Earth at times unless you have a SUPER PCI card......and High Powered Pentium4 that is virus free and runs smooth.   The PCI cards mostly do Analog input anyway and convert to a horrible looking digital form.   If you value your Videos.....Get a Cheap DV cam....in second place I would go with the Ultra Cheap CYBERHOME DVD recorder.

Technical terms dont mean Nothing!  Results do!

I have a Few PCI and AGP Capture Cards including ATI All In Wonder Pros here............Even an old DCTV is better in some cases.

[leirbag28]

@Tigger


Here is why you are wrong on probably all counts that you said:


No one is talking about IMPROVING Original Footage!   I am talking about the CHEAPEST way of preserving it at the smallest possible effort required by the user and smallest cost possible with the highest results.

hmmm whats cheaper........ a Laptop with a PCI card.........or a DVD recorder standalone?


I think you get the point.   And I got an opinion for you........I HIGHLY doubt Movie Studios use PCI cards that can be purchased for $9.......Im thinking they use Much Higher end equipment and cards costing in the THousands...otherwise what you are comparing is just as good as a Video Toaster Flyer.

Macs and PC's can indeed capture excellent quality at exttremely low prices........but thats usually coming from FIREWIRE...........being transfered from some Digital source that already did the capturing!  a DV camera!  there is no loss from DV to FIreWire on the PC.........yes the DV itself has some compression...........but its so good.......that as you yourself said.......Video studios use them for Braodcast and such............heck, they even Send Badly compressed MPEG2 over the airwaves on Satellite TV.


Doing it through a PC is too much hassle and cost if you want things done legally.

for the typical guy, the route I mentioned is best and cheapest and most effort free and still looks darn awesome.

is there a way of doing it cheaper on a PC?  absolutely! Im the authority on that..........why?  because I find Pentium 4's here all the time in the Streets of New York including 160gb SATA drives, DVD burners, 512mb DDR Ram sticks, 256 SDR and DIMMS.........I find them all the time.................all free! so I know it can be done for cheap...in my case for Free!

But I would not recommend anyone buy a PC to do video if they had a Choice............a Mac G4.....maybe, if he needed to do alot..................but for transfering Video? I would first recommend a DV camera, second place would be a DVD recorder..........and 3rd would be an iMac with iMovieHD,  a PC would be last resort....and If I recommended thjat.it would have to be with a Fresh install of WindowsXP Pro, that has never been connected to the internet....or just briefly for updates.  THis keeps the machine running tops.

If the typical Computer user can get Windows to do what its supposed to.....there  would be no argument...............but PC with Windows just suck.......thats why Linux exists today, and why some of us Cherish our Amigas so much...........we are in awe of how much PC's still suck today...........or maybe I should say Windows with a PC.

Im usisng Ubuntu Linux to type this.its my Main OS since ive been fed up with PC's.  Im going INTEL Mac soon!

Have you heard the News!  Apple finally got Public Screens HAHAHAHAHA!   ridiculously late. although Linux has had it for a while in the form of workspaces.

Apple is calling theirs: MultiDesktops............tsk tsk tsk..........these companies are getting the credit for evertything Amiga invented first.

I was appalled when they first mentioned "Plug And Play"  I laughed my behind offf..........I still remember that.

Anyway, I will rejoice in the fact that I still think Amigas Multitask the most properly.

[leirbag28]

@Tigger

I know that what you just finished saying is for the most part accurate.  And I wasnt implying you were condoning anything illegal.I was just saying, it Costs money to buy the software............though there is cool stuff free for download if one knows where.


But seriously........show me an easier way to make DVD's than my DVD recorder, And I will gladly throw mine in the trash.


I totally disagree with WIndows being able to multitask better than an AMiga. Never!

because I have yet to see anything with the elegance of the way Amiga uses Public screens............Show me.I wanna see!

Im looking for reasons to Finally leave the Amiga for Good.

Although the OS is outdated in technical terms.nothing is more correctly done than AmigaOS

If you dont know what I mean....here is what I mean:

SCALA MM300 is old (1993?)   Powerpoint is New (PowerPointXP)

Show me a Multimedia application as easy to use as SCALA and with the elegance.......and the fact that this interface uses a logical GUI, and I will show you me abandoning SCALA.

So Workbench (Multitasking/Public screens)  is to Windows Mutlitasking......................What SCALAs interface is to PowerPoints.

Thats the truth!

Yes.Powerpoint is much more advanced now and all..............But SCALA is done right! unbeatable!

Same with Workbench integrated with the Amiga...............still unbeatable till now in my eyes.

You might say "I need to ghet my eyes checked"  but I think alot of Hardcore Amiga users will agree with me.


That does not mean I dont like MAC OSX for instance......I totally Do!  thats my next permanent computer and OS (INTEL MAC)

But I will take a New Generation Amiga with the same concept as the old ones any day!


My point is........the DVD recorder is straight foward and easy! and Good quality for backing up a tape.


PC's are no fun!   Hassle Hassle Hassle, like WHite Castle, when one graduates with a Tassle.

:-)

[leirbag28]

@Tigger

I know that what you just finished saying is for the most part accurate.  And I wasnt implying you were condoning anything illegal.I was just saying, it Costs money to buy the software............though there is cool stuff free for download if one knows where.


But seriously........show me an easier way to make DVD's than my DVD recorder, And I will gladly throw mine in the trash.


I totally disagree with WIndows being able to multitask better than an AMiga. Never!

because I have yet to see anything with the elegance of the way Amiga uses Public screens............Show me.I wanna see!

Im looking for reasons to Finally leave the Amiga for Good.

Although the OS is outdated in technical terms.nothing is more correctly done than AmigaOS

If you dont know what I mean....here is what I mean:

SCALA MM300 is old (1993?)   Powerpoint is New (PowerPointXP)

Show me a Multimedia application as easy to use as SCALA and with the elegance.......and the fact that this interface uses a logical GUI, and I will show you me abandoning SCALA.

So Workbench (Multitasking/Public screens)  is to Windows Mutlitasking......................What SCALAs interface is to PowerPoints.

Thats the truth!

Yes.Powerpoint is much more advanced now and all..............But SCALA is done right! unbeatable!

Same with Workbench integrated with the Amiga...............still unbeatable till now in my eyes.

You might say "I need to ghet my eyes checked"  but I think alot of Hardcore Amiga users will agree with me.


That does not mean I dont like MAC OSX for instance......I totally Do!  thats my next permanent computer and OS (INTEL MAC)

But I will take a New Generation Amiga with the same concept as the old ones any day!


My point is........the DVD recorder is straight foward and easy! and Good quality for backing up a tape.


PC's are no fun!   Hassle Hassle Hassle, like WHite Castle, when one graduates with a Tassle.

:-)

[leirbag28]

@bloodline


I probably dont mean specifically Multitasking.............as in: Performing Multiple tasks at once.  What I mean is the way the Amiga does it and the way the Amiga uses Public screens......it Just Feels right!

It never feels right on a Mac or PC..I feel like its gonna break.


Of course the MAc will now have a more interewsting way to do it....The technology today allows it..........imaginbe how the Amiga would have been seen today had it advanced alongside PC and Mac............I've had visions in the past of Amigas doing See through screens and floating 3 Dimensional Public screens............Had I been in charge of Amiga back then.....Amiga would have been in a much higher position God willing.


I must say that I am going permanently to the Mac sooner or later, as its elegance is closest to the Amiga in performance partly because of its close integration of the OS and the Hardware, just like the Amiga.

But if a New Amiga were released.I would abandon the Mac immediately if I thought it was a REAL Amiga in everyway, and much more powerful for less money.