Reasons to avoid an Apple Mac

[Hammer]

If Apple can sell non-Windows computers, anyone can.

Getting the product sold to customers is another issue.

 The real problem is that PC vendors have no originality (just like Linux vendors).

Note that commoditized hardware = "economic of scale".

[Hammer]

LINUX = too complex, not friendly enough. No professional software available. No standard hardware platform.

Note that Linux runs on "industry standard"  X86 PC.

WINDOWS = buggy,

No OS is perfect, but most Windows XP systems work fine in most business desktop environment.

prone to viruses,

All OSes are virus prone.

PS NVIDIA Driver 61.31 works fine on Leadtek Geforce 4 TI and Albatron FX5900 PV.

[itix]

MACOS = The best!

:lol:

There are bunch of old Macs (running MacOS 8.x/9.x) and everyone avoid them. Dunno why but I managed to crash MacOS just by inserting a CD :-) Then there is no multitasking and apps crash like crazy. No wonder every Mac have a note how to reboot that damned thing :-)

Luckily there are few decent Macs with OSX. Not my favorite OS but it is the MacOS done right :-)

[Framiga]

Hi HopperJF

i agree with you.

IF i'll do the "great jump" (i think soon), i'll choose a Mac G5 for sure.

A lot of friend that do the same job of mine, has Mac systems and they are very happy with it.

The reason because "most" people, doesn't like MACs system, is because is hard to find cracked software for it :-D

Ciao

PS- obviously i'll NEVER sell my Amiga . . .NEVER

[Framiga]

Hi all,

guys!!!. . .again with those comparision? Amiga vs. PC/MAC?

How to compare, Companies with million of sales, thousand of developers (in some cases thousands developers/bt only for the OS) with the Amiga enviromrnt?

Come on! . . . Amiga was, is and still a little miracle per se!

Bye

[HopperJF]

adolescent wrote:

HopperJF wrote:
LINUX = too complex, not friendly enough. No professional software available. No standard hardware platform.

Too complex?  For a Mac user, possibly.  For anyone that has been around computers for a while it's not too difficult.  KDE is becoming very user friendly.  Normal users won't have to go into the shell at all.

No professional software?  Sure, there isn't as much as Mac or PC.  But there is plenty plenty of commercial software available.  Is Oracle available for MacOS?  Other than the software that is available, a lot of Windows software can be run on x86 Linux.  

No standard platform?  Umm, this isn't a bad thing.  Closed architecture is a bad thing.  I'd prefer to pick the pieces that I want in a system rather than have it decided for me.  Being stuck with a single company with limited model scope is severely limiting.

It is good to hear KDE is finally becoming user friendly, and the user will not have to delve into any shells.
Closed architecture for me is simpler, you don't have to worry about getting the software to work on your particular system.

Isn't Linux moving away from PPC now anyway? Or is that just SuSe?

As you can see I am no expert on Linux, but based the statement on my own and some friends personal experiences.
A friend of mine had a go at Linux switching from Windows XP last Christmas. He played around with various distros and found the one that he thought was easiest to use. Mandrake. (Insert better suggestion here).

He had many problems early on, eventually as he got used to it (a bit) he decided that the software just wasn't there.
He wants to stick with his Kazaa, MSN Messenger, MusicMatch because there is simply no better equivalents (in his opinion) available for Linux.

Windows in my opinion is still very poor, I was running XP on a fairly high end PC under a year ago and the problems we  had with it!  :pissed:
Without tempting fate here, in the 7 months I have been using this eMac I have had a big fat ZERO number of problems. Something seemed to go wrong with the PC more or less every few weeks.
Now please, do not feed me the maintenance crap (scan disk, disk defragment etc) because we did all that, and it was just a long, lengthy waste of time. I haven't had to do much maintenance on this Mac at all, and it continues to serve me well.

AmigaOS - now, there is hope.
Agreed on the fact that previous versions are good operating systems, if lacking support, but you have to take into account that the latest "full" version is nearly half a decade old.
OS4 looks to be coming on well, and I am very excited about Hyperion's development of AmigaOS.

Now changing the subject a little here, my friend will simply not switch back to Linux from XP if there is equal or better equivalents available for the following:-

 - MSN Messenger
 - Kazaa
 - Musicmatch

If anyone can inform me of some good Linux equivalents of these programs, I will appreciate it.

[Karlos]

Ok,

I see we have some mac affictionados here so I'm gonna take this opportunity to ask some questions.

I have to use OS X 10.2 at work and there is one simple thing I want to change.

I want to make highlighted text (such as in text input boxes etc) appear as white on a dark colour (black or dark blue is good). I want to do this because I have bad colour vision and I prefer high contrast for this kind of thing.

I've looked in system preferences / colors - here I can only set the background of highlighted text. That's halfway there, but the text itself remains doggedly black and there is no option to change it.

I looked into the accessibility options and there is nothing there either apart from a global colour invert where everything becomes white on black.

This is *such* a trivial thing I want to do. How the hell do I do it?

I've been told I may have to look in sone hidden parameter list file and modify settings there to achieve this.

I find it utterly insane that they spend all this effort making a total eyecandy GUI with all its fancy effects and I can't even change text colour :crazy:

[HopperJF]

*starts a new thread*

[carls]

It's just a funny movie. Why do people always take this computer thing so personally?

To claim that AmigaOS 3.x is a stable system is a lie at best. Minmize Voyager - something locks up. Copy files from a CD-ROM - my mouse pointer gets all jerky. Load up an application only to find that it starts in PAL, so you have to reboot and see if you can promote it to Cybergraphics. Download a utility from Aminet only to realize that it needs ClassAct, no wait it wants BGUI... or is it ReqTools, no... MUI perhaps... No, it was neither, it's got a custom GUI library included and it looks like crap. How about installer scripts that actually overwrites libraries with older versions without asking? And why does ImageFX constantly smear my pictures with graphic bugs from the different rulers? How come I can't get a decent SID player to work on my 060? And what's the deal with that friggin' topaz font? ARGHJÄ#ÄÖ

But still, I love it. It's the computer and OS I grew up with, so I'm used to all the quirks and oddities. I know that Voyager is unstable, no matter what I do. I know that the IDE bus on my A1200 can't really cope with a 24x CD-ROM. I know that GadTools is dated and that different developers like different kinds of GUI libraries. I know that I should check the libraries in freeware archives of dubious quality. I know that the 060 has a different instruction set than the other 68k CPUs so hardware-banging software might not work. I know that the topaz font doesn't look half bad in standard HiRes no-lace because that's what Workbench was designed for. I can choose to more or less ignore things like that, and these are things that doesn't even spring to mind when explaining to people why the Amiga is such a great platform.

I'm sure it's the same for both Mac, Windows and Linux aficionados. There's pros and cons with any platform and I think it's a sign of maturity and self-awareness to be able to make fun of your computer of choice every once in a while.