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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2004, 11:13:14 PM »
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Heheheehe, might bug them just a bit though.  :-D

But yea, if I end up going to more computer stores anytime soon I will definately open up an Amiga website just to piss them off and throw the customers that go to their stores.  :-)  :-D
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2004, 11:14:55 PM »
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Does Newtek have it's eye on the Amiga situation and is it developing A1/AOS4 software/hardware?

I doubt any old Amiga companies are coming back. Get few (100,000+) OS4 users first and they maybe look into Amiga again.

(Of course same applies to Peg+MOS too.)
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2004, 01:26:27 AM »
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Is Photoshop being developed for AOS4? If it is, then it's not too much a jump to expectthat so is Premiere, which is the sort of software I'm wondering about.

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« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2004, 02:35:38 AM »
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #18 on: June 27, 2004, 03:03:23 AM »
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I doubt any old Amiga companies are coming back. Get few (100,000+) OS4 users first and they maybe look into Amiga again.


It would be nice to know which companies ARE coming back (or had never really left). The only one I can think of is the ImageFX guys.

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2004, 05:51:14 AM »
...you know, the Photogenics dude? Did he abandon Amiga? Oh, and I remember he was having trademark problems years back. Did those get resolved?
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #20 on: June 29, 2004, 10:23:45 AM »
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...you know, the Photogenics dude? Did he abandon Amiga? Oh, and I remember he was having trademark problems years back. Did those get resolved?

I think so, though IIRC he had to make some concessions of some sort.

Last I heard Nolan was porting Photogenics to Windows and Linux, and was continuing Amiga support in parallel. I don't think he was planning on developing the Amiga version independently any more, since the market could no longer support his development costs.

For whatever reason (it may have been the legal problems, or the tough competition in the non-Amiga market) Photogenics never took off on Windows or Linux. My guess is that while it was probably never officially shelved, Nolan will be earning a living doing other things these days.

I've always wondered of companies like Nova Design (ImageFX) - which is basically just Kermit AFAIK - aren't in fact no more than a sideline for their owners. I can't see Kermit actually making a living from selling ImageFX or Aladdin for the Amiga. I can't see anyone making a living from developing Amiga software full time.

Addendum: It seems Photogenics is still alive, though the last version seems to be from 2002 (and I don't think there's an Amiga version of Photogenics HDR). Latest development seems to be concentrating on the PocketPC, which makes sense.

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #21 on: June 29, 2004, 11:30:01 AM »
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It would be nice to know which companies ARE coming back (or had never really left).

Humm, I don't really know. At least these never left:

DiscreetFX
Epic Interactive
Hyperion
IOSPIRIT
Nova Design
VaporWare

There are more but in overall not many. For example Haage & Partner is no longer developing for Amiga.

Companies coming back: NONE
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #22 on: June 29, 2004, 12:47:31 PM »
Its sad.

I think it'll take a whole lot of money to reverse the trend.

Someone like Sony should buy the rights to the Amiga name (like infogrammes and Atari) and then re-launch, hopefully opening up the OS to any PPC board.  The staple product ought to be a console carrying the amiga name.

Dream on.

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #23 on: June 29, 2004, 04:56:31 PM »
Found this goldie today: Amiga DE - Committed Applications as of 9/14/00

Someone should mail Amiga Inc and ask if Jagged Alliance could be ported from AmigaDE.

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #24 on: June 29, 2004, 06:11:40 PM »
Hoya!

Photogenics is definitively a cracker.

Be funky

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #25 on: June 29, 2004, 06:46:46 PM »
@itix

That list is priceless. Final Fantasy 5 and Mario 64!  :lol:
 

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #26 on: July 01, 2004, 01:12:58 AM »
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AmigaDE is as dead as Commodore 64 Basic as a programming environment.


I don't know about that. Isn't AI concentrating on DE stuff now since they're in the cell phone content only business? Are they dstill selling those Amiga game packs? Don't those have DE on them? I remember Eric Schwartz saying he had gone multi-platform because of DE or something like that. He made some kind of tile game with his drawings. There's probably plenty of DE dev going on.
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #27 on: July 01, 2004, 05:26:16 AM »
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Isn't AI concentrating on DE stuff now since they're in the cell phone content only business?

DE is dead like a stone and so is Amiga Inc.
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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #28 on: July 01, 2004, 06:54:01 AM »
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DE is dead like a stone and so is Amiga Inc.

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Re: Amiga dev folks and softwares and stuff
« Reply #29 from previous page: July 01, 2004, 02:26:43 PM »
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Doobrey wrote:
I dunno if they sold 3,000 SDK`s for DE, but I remember HMetal quoting a similar figure for the number of signups on the amigadevnet site.

You had to sign up to activate the darned things, as the activation keys were generated and supplied on-line only.

The 3000 number (if correct - they may simply have counted activations) is the number of copies sold, not the number of buyers (I bought two, as in Linux and Windows versions), and certainly not the number of active developers.


I have a sneaking suspicion it's simply the number of people who signed up for a free account at http://amigadev.net - you know, the place where we were supposed to get more information about "the new Amigas" back when AmigaDE was da bomb. Of course, it could also be just another number with the right amount of zeroes pulled out of Bill's and fleecy's hats.

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Frankly, if there were ever 100 active AmigaDE developers, I'd be impressed.


I wouldn't be impressed (4.5 years, 100 developers...), but I would be surprised.

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Most of the mailing lists Amiga Inc set up now only get sex spam messages. There may be one or two of the NDA/SDA forums still sctive, but I wouldn't hold my breath. AmigaDE is as dead as Commodore 64 Basic as a programming environment.


I would guess that more people are hacking away in C64 BASIC on any given day, than in AmigaDE/AACE/AA/AG[somenumber]/whatever.
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