England threatened to be kicked out of Euro 2004

[KennyR]

UEFA has warned that the England football team will have action taken against them if the hooligan violence is repeated this tournament - including maybe even getting kicked out of Euro 2004. English hooligans have again and again damaged every major tournament with riots and violence. They're not the only ones to do this, and they represent only a minority of the fans, but they are still the worst, it's getting worse every year, and UEFA seem to be sick of it.

Should this really happen? We know hooligans are mindless and only there for the fight, but they're nationalist too. If England was kicked out, would it shock or shame them into reigning back their behaviour? If not, what other approaches could be used?

[dezignersrepublic]

It wont make an ounce of difference, in my opinion.  If the hooligans choose to fight now they know the consequences and to be honest they're not going to Portugal to admire the architecture or to watch the football.  

Strangely though it does seem to be a problem most attributed to English footballs fans (although the Turks aren't far behind), I wonder what it is that other countries do diiferently that deters this kind of behaviour.  

[that_punk_guy]

Maybe coming from the European mainland, and therefore having a slightly bigger potential genepool, they're not quite as inbred. :-)

[Speelgoedmannetje]

that_punk_guy wrote:
Maybe coming from the European mainland, and therefore having a slightly bigger potential genepool, they're not quite as inbred. :-)

Quite a naive view that is. here on the mainland, there IS inbred and a lot of it, and it's vicious, and I had to deal with 'em :pissed:
 
I would almost say they're an excuse for death penalty and slavery.

[Robert17]

What about Turkey and their fans? Nobody says Sh*t about them and how awfully they behave, why do people always pick on us brits?!

[that_punk_guy]

Umm, somebody just did, second post in. You did read the thread before posting, right?

[Robert17]

Oops silly me. All I mean is I never heard any more about the violence between England and Turkey when we had a match, I heard a lot of talk about England being fined at the time, but none of Turkey...

[sir_inferno]

whenever i think of english hooligans, two things come to mind:

1.) Alien3 with the YY chromasome people, and the cool black minister dude going "i've got to teach my 'brothers' a lesson" and starts beating the {bleep} out of them

2.) English dudes holding a chair leg in one hand, a beer in the other, singing "Deutschland Deutschland úber alles", and the German Army rushing and and beating the {bleep} out of them with riot trunchouns...pour british souls...  :-D

[KennyR]

Robert17 wrote:
What about Turkey and their fans? Nobody says Sh*t about them and how awfully they behave, why do people always pick on us brits?!

Well, not Brits, since Scotland have the best fan record of any team, and Wales and Northern Ireland aren't known for fan riots either. England has the worst record. Turks are bad too, but the English are worse.

[MAD]

Hoya!

Muhahahahahahaha!

Another reason why I HATE football!

Play curling-no hooligans there!

Be funky

M A D

@kenny

The Turks are MUCH worse than the English hooligans.

When was the last time you heard of an English hooligan stabbing an
innocent opposition supporter to death for no reason whatsover?

[KennyR]

mdma wrote:
When was the last time you heard of an English hooligan stabbing an innocent opposition supporter to death for no reason whatsover?

Quite a lot actually, but in domestic games.

England are the rowdiest of all the fans and cause the most damage to property. I fully expect they'll be doing it as I write this.

A few Turks can be murderous on occassion, but England fans are rowdy, always.

[mikeymike]

When was the last time you heard of an English hooligan stabbing an innocent opposition supporter to death for no reason whatsover?

Why should someone going to a football match have a knife on them?

@kenny

"Quite a lot actually, but in domestic games."

?

When?  Please show me some evidence of anyone being murdered at a
domestic English football game. Links would be best, as I really don't
believe it.

I am an avid football supporter and crowd violence isn't the problem
people seem to think it is.  I haven't seen any at a domestic game in
years.

As for scotch fans being whiter than white.  Ever been to an old firm
match?  Celtic and Rangers hooligans are fcuking mental!  You know all
about "ned's" kenny, and the majorty of their fans are neds. Need I
say any more?

@mikeymike

Why indeed!

There is no reason for anyone to have a knife on them anywhere in
public, especially not a football match.  Well, maybe a butcher on his
way to work! ;-)