Who's up for some 'politically incorrect' jokes? :-p

but... but.... but....

You guys have gotten so used to being offended at everything, and so used to fighting politically that you simply cannot have a normal conversation without turning it into whining.  No one can win, because all anyone wants to do is whine and complain.  In this one thread, I see the mistakes of my management (or lack thereof) over this -- my first and original -- site, and lose all wonder at why other Amiga sites are popping up all over the place and people are complaining about this site's lack of "fun factor".  

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Looking at some of the other recent threads, it's clearly apparent why other people (former Amiga.org members) would feel this way -- being attacked for asking questions, being slammed for their efforts to better the Amiga (witness the comments in that new file site news item) -- and more.  To them, I apologize.  I'm also a little depressed that the moderation staff hasn't quite stepped up, but I understand.  They can't win any more than I can against {bleep} cries of "censorship" and other patent insults.

After creating the coffee house forums, I truly thought it would get better, but if anything, it's getting worse and the veracious (and mostly badgeringly intimidating) wacko liberals have literally run off the brightest and most constructive members of this site (and the community).  

I don't know how to correct it, aside from simply shutting down the site.  That however is something I'm not prepared to do right now unless pushed -- which a lot of you seem to be pre-disposed to want to do.

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I just don't understand it.  spookychick.com isn't this way, and political discussion is allowed there.  This is truly getting to be no fun any longer.

We all know about Iama's pov.

Thanks for speaking for over 3700 current Amiga.org members.  I'm sure we ALL know about his "pov" and share your particular viewpoint.  Where would we be without you to help guide us?

[Speelgoedmannetje]

I'd've laughed my ass off if for instance Glaucus had posted these jokes just for the sake of lousy political incorrectness. But since Iama has posted, who has stated in other threads about his (true?) opinion, I have a bad feeling about this thread.

@speel,

Like I said, my comments are more generalized and are not particularly directed at you.  You simply have the distinction of having started the complaining about the thread so it was easiest to simply reply to your post (the limitations -- or I should say the functionality -- of this Xoops software are truly starting to annoy me).

I should explain that due to external factors that I won't get into, I am currently going through a real crisis of "faith" as to why this site exists any more.

The only resolution I see before me at the current time is to completely reboot the site with a 100% Amiga-only lean.  After all, all the other sites have popped up to support the other compatible products and Amiga.org is now simply being used as a propoganda tool by them for their own means.  I'm not stupid, but I'm not as empowered to simply stop it as one might think.

Besides, it's time to split this site between "Classic Amiga" and "AmigaX" support anyway.

[whabang]

The only resolution I see before me at the current time is to completely reboot the site with a 100% Amiga-only lean.

The sad thing is that's prolly right. :-(

[cecilia]

time for more 'in poor taste' jokes. if you guys can see flash, go here for a game :
"Who said it Ralph Wiggum or George Bush?"

:roflmao:

btw, i gotem all rite! :lol:

[Glaucus]

Responses such as those by Glaucus will not be tolerated.

Why's that? I thought my jokes were the funnies jokes of all! You can't take what you dish out eh? Bunch of cry babies!

Of course my intent here was to simply demomnstrate how one man's joke - no matter how harmless it might seem - can be another man's insult. Remember, some people - for example gays - have to live a life where everyone makes fun of gays. I'm sure that can't be very confidence building. These jokes do nothing more then to re-enforce some rather nasty stereotypes. In that sense, it doesn't matter how funny they are!

  - Mike

Mike?

No one here gives a royal {bleep} whether you are gay, straight, or a sheep fetishist such as our favorite CTO.  It's only your own weak skin and tepid sensibilities that are at issue and there isn't a damned thing that we should have to do about that.  

If you cannot live in a world that can make fun of itself, you really don't need to be here.  My suggestion is to buy a thicker skin, or to at least become more comfortable with who you are.  If you were comfortable with who you are, simplistic jokes wouldn't bother you and the world should not have to bend to accommodate you.

On the other hand, specifically calling someone a "{bleep}ing idiot" is not a joke, it is not funny, and is a direct insult in direct opposition to the posting guidelines.

Wayne

[Glaucus]

Wayne wrote:
Mike?

That's me! :-D

No one here gives a royal {bleep} whether you are gay, straight, or a sheep fetishist such as our favorite CTO. It's only your own weak skin and tepid sensibilities that are at issue and there isn't a damned thing that we should have to do about that.

Well, I'm not any of those, so I wasn't directly offended. However, I did notice that several of my fellow forum members, some of which happen to be homosexual, did not appreciate the homosexual jokes. Like I said before, these play on old stereotypes, the very same stereotypes some people use to justify fag-bashing. The jokes depicting Jews as cheap and obsessed with money are exactly the same stereotypes the Nazis exploited to justify their "final solution" to the "Jewish problem". Perhaps you feel these stereotypes truly are harmless, I'm trying to tell you that they are not.

  - Mike

[Glaucus]

After creating the coffee house forums, I truly thought it would get better, but if anything, it's getting worse and the veracious (and mostly badgeringly intimidating) wacko liberals have literally run off the brightest and most constructive members of this site (and the community).

Excuse me there Wayne, but who has been run-off? Believe me, there's no conspiracy to run off anyone. And if there is, I'm not involved in it, nor would I.

  - Mike

[CU_AMiGA]

Typical biased moderating me thinks. When Sumner7 was posting crap like this, everyone was on his back (especially iama), but now the boot is on the other foot, it's okay. Normally i wouldn't mind jokes like this being posted, but it seems others are treated differently.

Typical biased moderating me thinks.

Moronic comments like this are exactly why I ponder the need for these forums any longer.  

There is a real feeling that these forums are a lost cause and there's no way left to do them and win.  Moderate and get stupid comments like yours.  Don't moderate, and get stupid comments from everyone else screaming that "you should have moderated that thread".

I'm still very much thinking about it, but this site -- or at least the Coffee house forums -- is really looking like it's due for a reboot.  Uncontrollable forums conquered by liberals and other wackos should not be the primary focus of this site.  Every thread -- even joke threads -- should not turn into a political, theological, or sociological debate and to be honest, it's very, very tiring on the spirit.

I find it very amazing that we now have the next Generation Amiga available and this typical whiny {bleep} is still continuing.

[CU_AMiGA]

@Wayne

I am sorry to to hear that you think my comments were "moronic". But i am pissed off and will stand by my comments. And i hope that it doesn't come to you rebooting the site.

You are allowed to be as pissed off as you want.  Imagine how disappointed you'd be if you ran a site for 10 years, made it into the best in the world, then find it to be a no win situation.

The longer I run this site, the more apparent it gets that non-Amiga-related forums should not be our primary focus.  When the activity in the coffee house forums outweighs the rest of the site 10 to 1, there really isn't any reason for it to exist any longer.  Perhaps I should really just move the coffee house forums to simplybitchin.com and be done with it.  After all, simply {bleep}in' is all you guys ever do anyway.

[CU_AMiGA]

Sorry to hear that Wayne. The only other thread i have been posting in is the ebay thread. My Amiga has been down since January, i wonder whether i will ever see it running properly again, since my PPC card blown. I am not even sure if it worth it, i might just get a PC. All what i have been done recently is being conned by some idiot over the months, as he has done with a whole load of people.

[PMC]

A couple are on their wedding night.  They're just about to retire when the groom turns to his new bride and hands her a pair of his trousers.

"Here, try these on and walk around the room" he asks.

"But, if I wear your trousers I'll fall over, they're way to big for me". She replied.

"I wear the trousers in this relationship, and if you remember this lesson we'll get on just fine".  He said, tersely.

Without a word, the bride turned and handed him a pair of panties.

"Here, try and put these on" she said.

"What?  Don't be silly woman, I'll never get into your panties!" he exclaimed.

"That's damn right.  And unless you change your attitude you never will....."