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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #14 on: May 26, 2004, 02:15:49 AM »
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Then of course, theres the mods... all that overclocking produces a heck of a lot of heat... so along with the water cooling system, I also have in the case, 2x 40mm fans 2x 60mm fans (One of which blows air through the radiator) and 3x 92mm fans... building your own system means you know down to the last inch what you can and cannot fit in your case.


U sure all those fans are needed? If thats the case, one would assume your running a Palmino core, cause I have my 2500+ running at 212 x 11 on air with 4 low rpm case fans, system is pretty quiet overall and I am yet to see the diode record above 50°C at 100% utilisation. You might wanna try and pick up a T'bred 1700+, you can get em real cheap now.

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Are you sure your temps are right? Did you drop the vcore at all?
 

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2004, 06:53:43 AM »
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U sure all those fans are needed? If thats the case, one would assume your running a Palmino core, cause I have my 2500+ running at 212 x 11 on air with 4 low rpm case fans, system is pretty quiet overall and I am yet to see the diode record above 50°C at 100% utilisation. You might wanna try and pick up a T'bred 1700+, you can get em real cheap now.

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Are you sure your temps are right? Did you drop the vcore at all?


Yes those fans are needed, the cpu operates between 25C and 45C depending on ambent temperature and is totally stable (I ran this system non stop with each OS installed running non stop for 2 weeks each and used it heavily with each one - not one freeze or crash), but the main hassle is running 133Mhz SD Ram at 154Mhz, which is about as fast as you'll ever push it (Which is the real achilies heal of the system, and did occationally get so hot as to lock up - hence the extra fans). Sadly, the board although utterly reliable, is limited in what overclocking you can do with it, you can't for instance adjust the clock multiplier, only the FSB, which is now at the boards absolute maximum.

Another problem is the case, because the front of it has no facility to accept a large size fan at the bottom, airflow has to come through the back, and out of the front via a couple of 90mm fans in a 5 1/2 ins bay at the top. The two 40mm fans help blow cool air onto the ram, with another 90mm  on the back to help reduce the vacuam in the case and cool the motherboard.

But before anyone says it, I'm not adding or changing anything more on this system as it stands, its an end of line system, which means when it dies thats it, end of story.

What I am pondering is to what to do after this system goes. TBH PC's bore me, the OS's available do indeed work, and work well, but are utterly uninspiring to use (Even BeOS, with all it has going for it, has so few apps in key areas as to make it an annoying experience). I gotta be honest I'm looking for a change, something different. Does that make sence?
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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2004, 09:41:17 AM »
Buy an Atari ST and try and do something usefull with it...

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2004, 10:55:12 AM »
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Buy an Atari ST and try and do something usefull with it...


I had one of them once, I broke the connector to the mouse (which as we all know is underneath pointing forwards). It was a nice little rig, but I much prefered the miggy.
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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2004, 12:52:16 PM »
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but the main hassle is running 133Mhz SD Ram at 154Mhz


Yeah, that is a real feat in itself, thats a real effort, cheers to you :pint: :-D

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I gotta be honest I'm looking for a change, something different. Does that make sence?


Sounds like you need a new hobby...besides computers I find tinkering with my car amusing...or you could just follow the sound advice of iama :lol:
 

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2004, 11:25:17 PM »
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but the main hassle is running 133Mhz SD Ram at 154Mhz


Yeah, that is a real feat in itself, thats a real effort, cheers to you :pint: :-D

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I gotta be honest I'm looking for a change, something different. Does that make sence?


Sounds like you need a new hobby...besides computers I find tinkering with my car amusing...or you could just follow the sound advice of iama :lol:


Thanks!

New hobby... interesting...

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #20 on: June 06, 2004, 12:54:01 PM »
At 3:12AM on friday, whilst feeding my newborn son, the PSU in my rig suffered a "terminal electrical fault" in which one of the lines of molex connectors along the 12V line ignited causing a plume of black acrid smoke to be vented into the room curtesy of the twin 92mm fans sat in the top most 5ins drive bay.

the computer itself lost power, and the drives span down for a moment before spinning back up again, the fans however took the brunt of the spike going much faster then their rating.

All this happened in under 3 seconds before I pulled the plug - the 3amp fuse didn't blow...

I don't know how badly damaged the drives or the motherboard and associated addons got hit, but I doubt very much either survived.

The PSU was 3 months old and as such I'll be phoning up Ebuyer to ask for a replacement rig - the reasoning being that had I not been up feeding my son, I and everyone else in the house could quite possibly gone up in smoke along with the PSU.

As you can imagine that I'm none too pleased about this state of affairs, and am pretty shaken up over the incident.

I guess that new hobby will be badgering Ebuyer for replacement kit.
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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #21 on: June 06, 2004, 01:09:09 PM »
:-(  Hopefully they won't act like *rses in trying to weasel out of their obligation.  Who are Ebuyer anyway?  Hardware selling outfit I assume?

PS: If you don't have a surge protect 4-way mains socket, I'd strongly advise getting one.  I know it has saved my PC at least once.
 

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #22 on: June 06, 2004, 01:59:50 PM »
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:-(  Hopefully they won't act like *rses in trying to weasel out of their obligation.  Who are Ebuyer anyway?  Hardware selling outfit I assume?

PS: If you don't have a surge protect 4-way mains socket, I'd strongly advise getting one.  I know it has saved my PC at least once.


Mine was on a 6 gang surge protect mains adapter, which is possibly why the fuse never blew.

Ebuyer are here, they are just about the cheepest online computer hardware store out there, and their UK operation is on the other side of this very city (sheffield) so should they try to weasle out of it, I will do two things 1: Go in person to try to make them see sence and if that doesn't work 2: Go to the local press regarding their lack of moral backbone, not to mention slashdot them.
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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #23 on: June 06, 2004, 04:49:29 PM »
i'd like to add www.scan.co.uk they're very cheap too

ebuyer can be dodgy on the descriptions  :-?
 

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #24 on: June 06, 2004, 06:47:58 PM »
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i'd like to add www.scan.co.uk they're very cheap too

ebuyer can be dodgy on the descriptions  :-?


Yeah tell me about it, I thought I was buying a 550 watt PSU, not a fire hazard...
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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #25 on: June 06, 2004, 06:51:43 PM »
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Yeah tell me about it, I thought I was buying a 550 watt PSU, not a fire hazard...


550W?  Are you sure that isn't overkill?  Bear in mind it will produce more heat, do you actually need the extra power?

My PC ticks along fine with a 350W PSU.

My preference in hardware suppliers is CCL Computers.

 

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #26 on: June 06, 2004, 11:20:12 PM »
I was running a lot of stuff at the limits of their capabilities, it wasn't for the extra watts that I bought it but for the greater stability of not pushing the psu anywhere near its theoretical limits. It never ran anything more then warm to the touch, even after a thorough thrashing of the system.

Or at least that was the theory. My 350W PSU was getting tired and really couldn't maintain the voltage when everything was running at flank, so I decided that getting a much higher wattage PSU would mean that it would still be ok should I ever get a more power hungry system.. sort of an investment so to speek.

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2004, 12:01:42 AM »
Was it a branded PSU?
 

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2004, 12:39:11 AM »
Its branded Cy - Cyber Power.. Made in China

its rated as follows

3.3v - 27A
5v - 34A
12v - 22A

So I doubt very strongly that even with 7 fans (spread across all three lines of molex), a cold cathode, 2 hd's and a dvd rom are going to stress that.

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Re: You know what, I'm bored with my PC!
« Reply #29 from previous page: June 07, 2004, 10:12:01 AM »
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its rated as follows


Rated is one thing.  What it actually delivers can be very different.  There's been a few articles about PSU comparisons, some delivered way below their specification.

Did you buy the PSU as a branded one or did it come in the case?